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re: Urban Meyer still respects the SEC.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:52 am to Choupique19
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:52 am to Choupique19
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Care to explain how USC lost to Ga. Tech?
Sure. USC really wasn't good this year. They were poorly coached and with Barkley injured had a quarterback that simply could not get the ball to his play makers. Additionally, their defense was a sieve.
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:53 am to VABuckeye
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Sure. USC really wasn't good this year. They were poorly coached and with Barkley injured had a quarterback that simply could not get the ball to his play makers. Additionally, their defense was a sieve.
Shouldn't matter, played Georgia Tech.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:06 am to Choupique19
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Choupique19
Your stupidity continues to shine
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:19 am to KillerNut9
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Your stupidity continues to shine
Link?
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:24 am to Choupique19
Are people really debating that motivation in bowl games is a huge factor? I thought this was pretty well accepted 
I know it's been talked about for several years in the media. And I think most football fans aknowledge it.
In this thread it seems you have the Miles haters (of which I have been accused of being actually), anti SEC people and anti LSU people (hog fans mostly) denying that bowl motivation is often a deciding factor......Oh, and lacking supreme motivation for a game 4 or 5 weeks after the regular season has ended is not the same thing as "quitting".
I know it's been talked about for several years in the media. And I think most football fans aknowledge it.
In this thread it seems you have the Miles haters (of which I have been accused of being actually), anti SEC people and anti LSU people (hog fans mostly) denying that bowl motivation is often a deciding factor......Oh, and lacking supreme motivation for a game 4 or 5 weeks after the regular season has ended is not the same thing as "quitting".
This post was edited on 1/16/13 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:25 am to Choupique19
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:33 am to KillerNut9
Sick burn, I thought it was gonna be a link to this thread though 
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:37 am to KillerNut9
I haven't seen any response other than, "But, but, but both teams had to play on the same field." Just because both teams had to play on it, does not mean that the field didn't effect the way the game was played.
As for Hendo, he takes it as a personal insult that I picked ULL to beat San Diego St because they were the more motivated team. He feels it's a huge knock against the almighty Cajuns that the world does not recognize their win over San Diego St as proof that the Cajuns were far and away the better team.
As for Hendo, he takes it as a personal insult that I picked ULL to beat San Diego St because they were the more motivated team. He feels it's a huge knock against the almighty Cajuns that the world does not recognize their win over San Diego St as proof that the Cajuns were far and away the better team.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:43 am to Choupique19
It's part of the game.
Deal with it. They weren't the better team that day, they lost.
It affected both teams, Penn State had skill guys too.
If LSU was the better team, they would have lined it up and pounded it down Penn State's throat.
Giving excuses shows how weak you are, and shows how weak you make LSU look.
They obviously weren't mentally tough, couldn't persevere. Weren't as well coached, couldn't make adjustments.
Just weren't as good of a team.
Again, deal with it.
Deal with it. They weren't the better team that day, they lost.
It affected both teams, Penn State had skill guys too.
If LSU was the better team, they would have lined it up and pounded it down Penn State's throat.
Giving excuses shows how weak you are, and shows how weak you make LSU look.
They obviously weren't mentally tough, couldn't persevere. Weren't as well coached, couldn't make adjustments.
Just weren't as good of a team.
Again, deal with it.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:47 am to whomewhat
u mad?
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:49 am to whomewhat
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Are people really debating that motivation in bowl games is a huge factor? I thought this was pretty well accepted
I know it's been talked about for several years in the media. And I think most football fans aknowledge it.
In this thread it seems you have the Miles haters (of which I have been accused of being actually), anti SEC people and anti LSU people (hog fans mostly) denying that bowl motivation is often a deciding factor......Oh, and lacking supreme motivation for a game 4 or 5 weeks after the regular season has ended is not the same thing as "quitting".
Some people are winners, some people are losers, inherently speaking.
You sound like a loser.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:50 am to KosmoCramer
I think you could walk into many football locker rooms of the under dog team and find them ecstatic if its raining bad for the game.
I remember back in high school when we played the really fast all black high schools and caught them during a monsoon how much we liked to see that.
Its simple physics, you can only go so fast on a wet field, let's say 7 speed out of 10 speed.
Well, if your team runs at 10 speed, but the other team is only capable of 7 speed, and the field allows for only 7, then the faster team loses the advantage at that skill/ability. That doesn't mean the 7 team "gained" an advantage, it just means the faster team lost one. You hope this isn't the deciding factor of many factors that go into winning a game, but it can be.
At the pro level, this is pretty dumb, the teams are even. At college, I think it still has some practical use, and in high school, I think it does too.
Best example of the year. Louisville vs. USM. A winless USM team lost by 4 at home.
I remember back in high school when we played the really fast all black high schools and caught them during a monsoon how much we liked to see that.
Its simple physics, you can only go so fast on a wet field, let's say 7 speed out of 10 speed.
Well, if your team runs at 10 speed, but the other team is only capable of 7 speed, and the field allows for only 7, then the faster team loses the advantage at that skill/ability. That doesn't mean the 7 team "gained" an advantage, it just means the faster team lost one. You hope this isn't the deciding factor of many factors that go into winning a game, but it can be.
At the pro level, this is pretty dumb, the teams are even. At college, I think it still has some practical use, and in high school, I think it does too.
Best example of the year. Louisville vs. USM. A winless USM team lost by 4 at home.
This post was edited on 1/16/13 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:54 am to KosmoCramer
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It affected both teams
What if in the 2013 NBA Finals, the NBA outlaws 3 point shots? The OKC Thunder can't bomb away from 3 point land, and neither can the Miami Heat. So if the Heat win, does it prove that they are the better team because the were more "mentally tough, better coached, made adjustments, and were able to persevere".
Both teams had to play under the same rules?
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:54 am to Teddy Ruxpin
It's part of the game.
In baseball, they choose not to play in wet, muddy conditions.
In football, they choose to play in all conditions.
It's part of the game.
The SEC gets the advantage of having many of it's bowl games played in the south, that's an advantage. The SEC also plays the majority of its games in really good weather.
The Big Ten schools play games in poor weather many times.
It's football. It's how it happens sometimes.
Big Ten schools playing in the heat of Tiger Stadium in August, that's an advantage for LSU because they have been practicing in the heat and humidity all summer.
Teams get advantages all the time, players and coaches have to adjust and deal with it.
Penn State adjusted better than LSU, they scored more points, and they won.
That's about what it boils down to.
In baseball, they choose not to play in wet, muddy conditions.
In football, they choose to play in all conditions.
It's part of the game.
The SEC gets the advantage of having many of it's bowl games played in the south, that's an advantage. The SEC also plays the majority of its games in really good weather.
The Big Ten schools play games in poor weather many times.
It's football. It's how it happens sometimes.
Big Ten schools playing in the heat of Tiger Stadium in August, that's an advantage for LSU because they have been practicing in the heat and humidity all summer.
Teams get advantages all the time, players and coaches have to adjust and deal with it.
Penn State adjusted better than LSU, they scored more points, and they won.
That's about what it boils down to.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:56 am to Choupique19
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What if in the 2013 NBA Finals, the NBA outlaws 3 point shots? The OKC Thunder can't bomb away from 3 point land, and neither can the Miami Heat. So if the Heat win, does it prove that they are the better team because the were more "mentally tough, better coached, made adjustments, and were able to persevere".
Both teams had to play under the same rules?
Do you realize how dumb, stupid, butthurt, and weak this makes you look?
That's comparing apples to New York City.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:57 am to KosmoCramer
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Penn State adjusted better than LSU, they scored more points, and they won.
Yes they did, I never argued the outcome.
But to say that the field conditions didn't affect the game is just not sensible.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:58 am to KosmoCramer
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The Big Ten schools play games in poor weather many times.
not really. not sure OSU played one game in poor conditions all year. maybe it rained one weekend?
at most northern teams may play 1 or 2 crappy weather games a year.
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Big Ten schools playing in the heat of Tiger Stadium in August, that's an advantage for LSU because they have been practicing in the heat and humidity all summer.
Ohio summers are just as equally humid as many places in the south... Ohio summers blow. Plus, when it gets too hot most teams move inside (this goes for any region)
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:58 am to KosmoCramer
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That's about what it boils down to.
You basically just supported my entire argument.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:59 am to Choupique19
Ted Ginn took the opening kickoff back in 2006 against Florida, and got his ankle broken.
He was our deep threat, and completely changed that game since he wasn't in there.
I'm not mad about it, it's football. Ohio State didn't win the game.
He was our deep threat, and completely changed that game since he wasn't in there.
I'm not mad about it, it's football. Ohio State didn't win the game.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:00 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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You basically just supported my entire argument.
I wasn't really refuting anything you said.
It's football, you deal with it or you GTFO.
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