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Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:14 pm to Shoulderchoke
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I don't hate wrestling, I just hate wrestlers who don't evolve.
Clay was coming off three consecutive finishes before fighting Pettis.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:15 pm to Shoulderchoke
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I do agree with you though, wrestling is probably the absolute best base to have when entering MMA.
Especially now that the ring is all but dead in mma.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:15 pm to ChemE in the OP
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In neopolitan ice cream there's strawberry.
What's that have to do with ice cream?
at Tino FAIL
you must of not kept reading where I said it was part of MMA
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:17 pm to Bamascoopfan
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Who won the fight? What is your point again?
The point is the fight is boring as hell when the guy who gets the takedown does no work on top. I love the wrestlers who work like Chael Sonnen.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:17 pm to Bamascoopfan
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yeah, laying on top of someone is way more dominate that punching in the face numerous times.....Pettis wasn't even hurt....
Who won the fight? What is your point again?
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:18 pm to Bamascoopfan
Guida is not really a LnP fighter, he just was tonight. My problem is with fighters getting top position and not even attempting to pass. MMA is a very difficult sport to score. So many aspects, so many different ways to look at a fight.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:18 pm to Shoulderchoke
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My problem is with fighters getting top position and not even attempting to pass. MMA is a very difficult sport to score. So many aspects, so many different ways to look at a fight.
exactly....thank you
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:20 pm to Shoulderchoke
He was a LNP fighter tonight because of his physically weaker opponent. Don't blame the wrestler, blame the guy that can't wrestle for making the fight boring. Guida has NEVER been in a boring fight against another wrestler.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:21 pm to Bamascoopfan
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My problem is with fighters getting top position and not even attempting to pass.
Easy to say in theory but hard to do against a guy with a good guard who does not want you to pass.
This post was edited on 6/4/11 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:22 pm to lsutigerdan
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I love the wrestlers who work like Chael Sonnen.
Sonnen hasn't finished a fight in 4 years
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:24 pm to Shoulderchoke
Correct. Sonnen is far more boring than Clay Guida
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:24 pm to Shoulderchoke
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Easy to say in theory but hard to do against a guy with a good guard who does not want your to pass.
I agree 100%. I like Guida, just didn't like his performance tonight.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:35 pm to Shoulderchoke
ground fighting s much harder to do than what you see. I have 12 years martial arts experiance, and i got my arse worked by a friend with half my karate experiece, 3 years BJJ, and fought amatuer ma for of those years. just a few weeks of jiu jitsu lessons, i can now recognize what most people call nothing, but is actually working their asses off
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:39 pm to SeksPanther
Correct. Takedown drills against a resisting opponent is the hardest thing to do in the gym. Long-time wrestlers make it look easy but it's not.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:55 pm to lsutigerdan
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The point is the fight is boring as hell when the guy who gets the takedown does no work on top.
Guida never stopped working and moving tonight. The guy just had really good defense.
The fact is Guida dominated that kid tonight.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 3:03 am to SG_Geaux
Even in a BJJ tournament under BJJ rules Pettis would have lost on the takedown points. Sub attempts don't count for anything.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 10:33 am to Bamascoopfan
A fight in the purest form is simply trying to impose your will over a guy who is well trained to shut you down, and impose his will on you
Guida simply did what he wanted to do in there and Pettis couldn't stop him.
Guida simply did what he wanted to do in there and Pettis couldn't stop him.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 12:18 pm to KBeezy
MMA fans are fickle. Guida has been in 2 fights of the year and fight of the night 4 times.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 12:39 pm to Bamascoopfan
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He was a LNP fighter tonight because of his physically weaker opponent. Don't blame the wrestler, blame the guy that can't wrestle for making the fight boring. Guida has NEVER been in a boring fight against another wrestler.
Guida is a boring fighter. If pitter patter low level midget striking where you know nobody is ever going to get KOed mixed with wrestling where you know nobody is ever going to submit the other gets you off then good for you I guess. I'd rather Guida, Edgar, Maynard, Tyson Griffin etc all go jump off a cliff and die. The Florian and Sanchez fights were only exciting because the other guy was beating him down.
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