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re: UFC 313: Pereira vs Ankalaev
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:34 am to TackySweater
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:34 am to TackySweater
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TackySweater
You've got to be one of the most annoying people on this site. Are you a 12 year old girl? You don't have to put lol in every sentence.
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:35 am to Breesus
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I’d rather if they vacated the belt altogether and told them to rematch for it.
What’s the difference between that and just giving AP an immediate rematch?
ETA: I thought the fight was close, but MA had the biggest moment in the fight, and controlled the fight more.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 9:38 am
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:36 am to TheRouxGuru
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You just come across as a douchebag, that’s all. I have no clue why you act the way you do. You make decent points but you act like such a child
Wut lol
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:37 am to GeauxLSU17
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Are you a 12 year old girl? You don't have to put lol in every sentence.
Yea cause that’s the point of it, me literally laughing like a 12yr old girl
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:41 am to TheRouxGuru
I personally didn't think the fight was that bad, certainly not as terrible as some people are making it out to be here.
If you want to see truly terrible see Ngannou vs Black Beast although that wasn't a title fight.
During the stretches of Ank's control both fighters were very active...it wasn't just lay and pray.
The two things that stuck out to me:
- Ank had him going backwards most of the fight, which threw him off
- The leg kicks didn't affect Ank as much as Poatan would have hoped to slow Ank down in the later rounds so he can finish him. And he had kicks of his own, including that front kick to the body that was very effective.
If you want to see truly terrible see Ngannou vs Black Beast although that wasn't a title fight.
During the stretches of Ank's control both fighters were very active...it wasn't just lay and pray.
The two things that stuck out to me:
- Ank had him going backwards most of the fight, which threw him off
- The leg kicks didn't affect Ank as much as Poatan would have hoped to slow Ank down in the later rounds so he can finish him. And he had kicks of his own, including that front kick to the body that was very effective.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:42 am to TackySweater
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You just come across as a douchebag
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Wut lol
I rest my case
Anyway. For lightweight, who gets the next title shot? Am I the only one that wants to see gaethje/topuria?
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:51 am to TheRouxGuru
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You just come across as a douchebag
Because I say things that a lot here don’t agree with? Ok sure.
Maybe you’re a Buffer fan lol
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:55 am to castorinho
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The leg kicks didn't affect Ank as much as Poatan would have hoped to slow Ank down in the later rounds so he can finish him
He completely went away from it after the first round. If he keeps chopping that tree, I think the fight goes very differently. Ank changed up his stance a little bit but nothing that should have really prevented it. One of the bigger what ifs I remember lately.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:01 am to TackySweater
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He completely went away from it after the first round
TackySweater blind confirmed
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:03 am to TheOcean
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TackySweater blind confirmed
You’re melting along with breesus about how shitty if a fight that was lol.
There’s no real reason to take anything you say seriously
WhErEs tHa BLOOD?!?!
I can see you and him sitting upper decks at these events and booing along with the other mouth breathers because you think you deserve a WaR, We nEeDs tO sEe tHeM ThRoWiNg bOmBs!!!
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:08 am to TackySweater
Id have to rewatch the fight but I really thought Pereira did enough to take 1,3, and 5 in a very close fight.
I will say this, MA had clearer wins of rd 2 & 4 than Alex had (or what I thought he had) in the others.
I thought Poaton should have won the fight based on round scoring but I do agree with the sentiment of not rewarding the champ with an uninspiring performance. MA seemed to have more moments, was moving forward most of the fight, and surprisingly unphased by the calf kicks even after limping to his corner real early on.
I will say this, MA had clearer wins of rd 2 & 4 than Alex had (or what I thought he had) in the others.
I thought Poaton should have won the fight based on round scoring but I do agree with the sentiment of not rewarding the champ with an uninspiring performance. MA seemed to have more moments, was moving forward most of the fight, and surprisingly unphased by the calf kicks even after limping to his corner real early on.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:13 am to Shameless
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have to rewatch the fight but I really thought Pereira did enough to take 1,3, and 5 in a very close fight.
Judges love the aggressor. Ank forced most of the fight and had him on his heels. AP looked more timid than we’ve ever seen him in the UFC. This was caused by Ank, not just “oh maybe he was sick, he didn’t look himself”
Round 3 was fairly even on strikes. I don’t have the stats in front of me. But Ank was the aggressor. Judges factor that in.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:17 am to TackySweater
Yeah Alex looked off but also the first time we’ve seen him on his heels most of a fight so that should probably be the primary reason haha.
Curious to see how he bounces back after that. Hoping he’s back better than ever but I know he’s already up there in age so you never know. Especially with a nice blueprint out on beating him that doesn’t even really involve the takedown haha
Curious to see how he bounces back after that. Hoping he’s back better than ever but I know he’s already up there in age so you never know. Especially with a nice blueprint out on beating him that doesn’t even really involve the takedown haha
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:20 am to Shameless
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Yeah Alex looked off but also the first time we’ve seen him on his heels most of a fight so that should probably be the primary reason haha.
That’s my point. Someone said earlier “I wonder if he was sick”
Lol no. He fought a dude that completely threw him off his game. That’s why he looked off.
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Curious to see how he bounces back after that. Hoping he’s back better than ever but I know he’s already up there in age so you never know. Especially with a nice blueprint out on beating him that doesn’t even really involve the takedown haha
This was a great showing on how to neutralize a dangerous knockout artist
Posted on 3/9/25 at 11:19 am to hashtag
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except those stats aren't real. Go look them up yourself on the UFC site.
Again, posted the same site reflecting the earlier stats. Weird as frick to update the numbers so significantly after the fight is over
Posted on 3/9/25 at 11:38 am to Mizzoufan26
I wonder how much of a part poatan not having a base camp played in this loss. Dude has been traveling all around and training on the road. ankalaev was out in the mountains busting his arse.
As for poatan, he should try and move up. Maybe they give him a winnable fight and then he can jump into a title shot since there are no competitors.
As for poatan, he should try and move up. Maybe they give him a winnable fight and then he can jump into a title shot since there are no competitors.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 11:48 am to diat150
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As for poatan, he should try and move up. Maybe they give him a winnable fight and then he can jump into a title shot since there are no competitors.
Think, at his age, he has to grab the only money fight available right now, which is the Ank rematch. Watching Dana's postfight presser right now, and Dana confirmed that a rematch is the obvious next move.
IF Alex wins the rematch, he has options again: Threequal with Ank to defend the belt, Duplessis fight back on the table, or a move to HW. Probably in that order.
Presser highlights:
-"Moving up is for guys [Pereira] who clean out their division and that division isn't cleaned out."
-Alex's lack of a home training base could have been an issue, but Ank was also the biggest challenge of his career.
-Jon Jones will fight Aspinall this summer. The only questions are where and when.
-Gaethje is definitely in the mix for a title shot.
-Jalin Turner has reconsidered retirement.
-Gaethje Fight of the Night.
-Ruffy Performance of the Night.
Surprised no questions or comments about Francis Marshall, who was criminally robbed last night.
Dana press link
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:24 pm to shutterspeed
Yeah, the difference when Pereira moved up to LHW was that he had beaten Adesanya 3-1 all time. If he moves up to HW, is he just admitting that he doesn't think he can beat Ankalaev? Think Pereira needs to get that redemption against Ankalaev before he can move on.
I think Ankalaev rocking Pereira at the end of the 2nd was probably the difference between winning and losing last night. If Pereira had rocked Ankalaev in equal measure at some point, he probably retains the title. It looked like Pereira was saved by the bell there.
PeteRose posted here that Pereira seemed more tense and serious than usual at the press conference. I could be wrong, but I think Pereira even slightly rushed unleashing the bow-and-arrow shot and yell for his signature walk in. There must have been some truth to Pereira being uncomfortable about the matchup vs. Ankalaev.
If Pereira had seen the opportunity to use his death sentence left hook, I'm sure he would have taken it. Ankalaev must have kept up an incredible defense the whole fight, giving Pereira no clear openings.
Teddy Atlas was saying after the fight that Pereira does kind of depend on the other guy making mistakes so that he can seize the moment and make them pay. Ankalaev just didn't make many or any mistakes.
Along those same lines, Pereira's gonna have to train to go first on offense instead of waiting to do the counter punch. Seemed like he was just waiting and waiting--but the perfect window just never opened up. His discipline to wait is exceptional, but going into the 5th, your coach has to say--no more waiting, you either empty the gas tank throwing or you'll regret it.
Another thing that has to be discouraging--Pereira landed a ton of leg kicks, and it still didn't seem to affect Ankalaev too much or even at all. That's Pereira's trademark game plan, give the other guy a flat tire and then destroy him. Didn't work against Ankalaev.
Overall it was an underwhelming title fight. Pereira's fights are so intense to watch because you know something insane could happen at any second. Last night was like that too, but there was no payoff / no insane KO / a bit of the old ultra-violence. So it felt like almost sneezing but then you don't.
Justin Gaethje is a mensch and deserves a shot at Islam. Then he wouldn't have to retire wondering what could have been--without the UFC 300 loss to Max, etc. Anik said last night that he heard Topuria has the inside track on fighting Islam next. But Gaethje should get a title shot against either one of them before he rides into the sunset.
I think Ankalaev rocking Pereira at the end of the 2nd was probably the difference between winning and losing last night. If Pereira had rocked Ankalaev in equal measure at some point, he probably retains the title. It looked like Pereira was saved by the bell there.
PeteRose posted here that Pereira seemed more tense and serious than usual at the press conference. I could be wrong, but I think Pereira even slightly rushed unleashing the bow-and-arrow shot and yell for his signature walk in. There must have been some truth to Pereira being uncomfortable about the matchup vs. Ankalaev.
If Pereira had seen the opportunity to use his death sentence left hook, I'm sure he would have taken it. Ankalaev must have kept up an incredible defense the whole fight, giving Pereira no clear openings.
Teddy Atlas was saying after the fight that Pereira does kind of depend on the other guy making mistakes so that he can seize the moment and make them pay. Ankalaev just didn't make many or any mistakes.
Along those same lines, Pereira's gonna have to train to go first on offense instead of waiting to do the counter punch. Seemed like he was just waiting and waiting--but the perfect window just never opened up. His discipline to wait is exceptional, but going into the 5th, your coach has to say--no more waiting, you either empty the gas tank throwing or you'll regret it.
Another thing that has to be discouraging--Pereira landed a ton of leg kicks, and it still didn't seem to affect Ankalaev too much or even at all. That's Pereira's trademark game plan, give the other guy a flat tire and then destroy him. Didn't work against Ankalaev.
Overall it was an underwhelming title fight. Pereira's fights are so intense to watch because you know something insane could happen at any second. Last night was like that too, but there was no payoff / no insane KO / a bit of the old ultra-violence. So it felt like almost sneezing but then you don't.
Justin Gaethje is a mensch and deserves a shot at Islam. Then he wouldn't have to retire wondering what could have been--without the UFC 300 loss to Max, etc. Anik said last night that he heard Topuria has the inside track on fighting Islam next. But Gaethje should get a title shot against either one of them before he rides into the sunset.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:37 pm to Big Fat Guy
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but I think Pereira even slightly rushed unleashing the bow-and-arrow shot and yell for his signature walk in. There
I thought the same thing on the walkout. He usually seems intense on the walkout and like he’s enjoying it. But last night he seemed almost lackluster and kind of annoyed at it. Something was off with his energy from the walk in through the end of round 5. He wasn’t the aggressor and he wasn’t really throwing anything at all other than the leg chops. He just looked off. Whether that was a lapse in training or preparation or sickness or age or fear or whatever who knows but he definitely did not look like himself.
Ank is a great fighter so is Alex. Ank was definitely more pressure and more strikes but then he switched to trying takedowns and couldn’t pull it off. It was a very hesitant and defensive fight. It was blue balls based on expectations and the decision just ended with a blah feeling.
If Alex doesn’t come back out with a killer instinct in the rematch I think Akalaev will reign for a long time. He’s dominant and only 32. With the belt and championship money and training he’s going to be a force to be reckoned with for years to come.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:45 pm to Big Fat Guy
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Anik said last night that he heard Topuria has the inside track on fighting Islam next. But Gaethje should get a title shot against either one of them before he rides into the sunset.
I agree. Gaethje is 36 and winning. Give him a shot before retirement. Topuria is holding his own belt and only 28.
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