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re: UFC 297: Strickland vs Du Plessis

Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:52 am to
Posted by tee3
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:52 am to
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that's cool. But he didn't beat Strickland tonight, which is what we're talking about.

Except he just did, and you're gonna have to deal with that. Later on when you calm down, go back and re watch it.
Posted by ImJustaBoy
Member since Oct 2023
553 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:54 am to
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go back and re watch it.

And I’ll see that he didn’t win the fight.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63584 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:54 am to
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It was a close good fight, but we’ve seen this play out over and over to be the champ you need to BEAT the champ and as close as it was you didn’t really beat the champ if there’s a real debate about who won


You all do realize that each round is scored individually and not cumulatively at the end, right? There ain't no "tie goes to the champion." It's math.
Posted by tee3
Member since Nov 2020
1058 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:54 am to
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And I’ll see that he didn’t win the fight.

sure buddy
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:56 am to
So is there no post show tonight or?....

Edit: nvm i found it now. They must have had a delay in the posting of it
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 12:59 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22884 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:56 am to
The whole Fight Companion, which includes a former UFC fighter, the #1 UFC commentator ever by a mile and one of the most successful and influential BJJ instructors ever all clearly thought Sean won the fight.
Posted by ImJustaBoy
Member since Oct 2023
553 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:57 am to
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sure buddy

Lol @ thinking you won a fight when the reigning champ is still standing, fully conscience
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 1:00 am
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2724 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:00 am to
Strickland was easily the more crisp and accurate fighter. He picked apart DDP with his jab and straight right, and he checked almost every leg kick. DDP was the more aggressive fighter, had takedowns which did nothing, but it was apparently enough to give it to DDP.

Strickland fought not to lose. He wasn’t aggressive enough, didn’t let the right hand fly enough and abandoned that front kick to keep distance.

I don’t think DDP won the fight as much as Strickland lost it.
Posted by tee3
Member since Nov 2020
1058 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:01 am to
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The whole Fight Companion, which includes a former UFC fighter, the #1 UFC commentator ever by a mile and one of the most successful and influential BJJ instructors ever all clearly thought Sean won the fight.


Same fight companion that thought Volk beat Islam the first time lol let's not pretend that Joe isn't biased and has his favorites.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:02 am to
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DDP was the more aggressive fighter, had takedowns which did nothing, but it was apparently enough to give it to DDP.


This is the problem. He got rewarded for meaningless takedowns and for throwing wild crap that didn't connect.
Posted by Peytonknows
NOLA
Member since Nov 2006
16465 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:02 am to
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which includes a former UFC fighter



Talmbout the white boy who works too much, bapa?
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10201 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:04 am to
Strickland won the fight. Period.

Disney/ESPN stepped in and rigged it. FACT.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2724 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:04 am to
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This is the problem. He got rewarded for meaningless takedowns and for throwing wild crap that didn't connect.


I agree, takedowns that actually lead to something should count. But Strickland was up in seconds and the takedowns were ineffective.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:07 am to
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I agree, takedowns that actually lead to something should count. But Strickland was up in seconds and the takedowns were ineffective.



I love the UFC but this is what drives me the most insane about it. If someone gets a takedown 9 out of 10 times the judges just give them the round regardless of what they do with it.

It was definitely a close fight but I personally think Strickland won.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63584 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:10 am to
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Disney/ESPN stepped in and rigged it. FACT.


The promotion that flipped a middle finger to Covidians, brought us Colby Covington and Jorge Masvidal, and features Trump ringside at damn near every UFC event suddenly rigged a main event at the altar of wokeism.

Right.
Posted by tee3
Member since Nov 2020
1058 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:14 am to
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I love the UFC but this is what drives me the most insane about it. If someone gets a takedown 9 out of 10 times the judges just give them the round regardless of what they do with it.


Certainly didn't work for Yan vs O Malley
Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5264 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:17 am to
Close fight. I thought Strickland did enough to retain the belt. Obviously, the take downs mattered. I don’t think they physically affected Strickland, but in the judges mind, it was a difference maker. I’ve watched Strickland fight a dozen times. He’s a black belt in BJJ. I’m not sure why he doesn’t fall back on his BJJ skills instead of standing up and striking all fight. I love watching him sling it, but it would be interesting to see him use his ground game against a powerful striker like Dricus.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82399 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:24 am to
Absolutely gutted, mates
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82066 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:29 am to
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The promotion that flipped a middle finger to Covidians, brought us Colby Covington and Jorge Masvidal, and features Trump ringside at damn near every UFC event suddenly rigged a main event at the altar of wokeism.

Right.
they're completely unhinged.
It was a close fight that could have gone either way.
"close fight, belt goes back to the champ" sounds good but it's not a real thing.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9600 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:39 am to
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I’ve watched Strickland fight a dozen times. He’s a black belt in BJJ. I’m not sure why he doesn’t fall back on his BJJ skills instead of standing up and striking all fight.


Not all black belts are created equally
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