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re: UFC 140 - Jones vs. Machida - Toronto, Canada - Saturday, December 10th @ 7:00E
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:56 pm to Carlton Banks
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:56 pm to Carlton Banks
I disagree with you here he might not have a 4.3 40 but he has crazy flexibility and power. He can do w/e kick or punch he wants. The guy is a freak athlete.
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:56 pm to Carlton Banks
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His hand speed isn't incredible.
U serial? It isn't Vitor Belfort, but it is elite.
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And Anderson and Lyoto are nothing alike... at all. Their styles are completely different.
Again are you serial?
They both are counter punchers, they wait for you to make a mistake and attack you.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:57 pm to Carlton Banks
Some blood did get in his eye but unless the blood is gushing in there the fight will keep going. That makes Machida want to finish the fight faster before the cut gets worse to where the fight could be stopped.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:58 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
which is what lyoto tried to do and he paid for it
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:00 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:His "power" is a reflection on his timing. He's not incredible powerful... he's just extremely accurate and has incredible timing.
I disagree with you here he might not have a 4.3 40 but he has crazy flexibility and power. He can do w/e kick or punch he wants. The guy is a freak athlete.
He will hit you when you are vulnerable for just a split second and he will hit your right on the button to make the lights go out.
Dan Henderson is powerful... Anderson is just incredibly good at placing his shots.
Anderson isn't going to out-muscle you, he isn't incredibly fast, etc. He isn't some freak of an athlete genetically. He's just good at what he does.
Yeah, he's flexible... but there are plenty of yoga instructors who are extremely flexible who aren't athletic at all. Flexibility just means he stretches a lot.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:01 pm to Mikes My Tiger
quote:no way. We'll never see it happen, but Jones would run right through Anderson, and I'm glad we'll never see it. AS struggles against wrestlers, and JJ would take him down and GnP him out early on. Hell, Travis Lutter full mounted AS.....no way he could stop JJ from doing the same.
And Jones would not beat Silva at this point in his career. Silva would knock him out in 3 rounds tops.
eta: and Anderson is probably my favorite fighter of all-time (along with Fedor). I'm not just some JJ fanboy claiming this....
This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:04 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I would take Jones to beat Silva right now. 60/40 or 65/35.
I would take Jones 100/0.. Plus this fight will never happen, Silva's getting beat by the end of the year.
Also.. I met Phil Davis, and he's way too small to beat Jones.. just saying.
edit: By the way, tonight's main card went pretty much perfect for UFC..
This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:04 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:Watch top boxers and tell me his hand speed is great. He's got good hand speed but there are plenty others in the division who are just as fast.
His hand speed isn't incredible. U serial? It isn't Vitor Belfort, but it is elite. quote: And Anderson and Lyoto are nothing alike... at all. Their styles are completely different. Again are you serial? They both are counter punchers, they wait for you to make a mistake and attack you.
And yeah, Anderson and Lyoto are both counter-punchers, but they go about it way differently. Anderson will stand in the pocket and use head movement to counter with punches and kicks and he will clinch and throw knees.
Lyoto completely jumps out of the way and moves very oddly and counters in odd bursts.
It's much different.
This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:07 pm to Carlton Banks
being flexible is a huge advantage in MMA it helps you on the ground big time and when your too muscled up like a brock lesnar you have less stamina because of lactic acid and reduces your movement. Anderson Silva is very athletic and he has enough power with great handspeed.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:08 pm to Carlton Banks
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The blood wasn't in his eye. That is what the doctor was checking for.
It was right above his eye. You wipe the blood away with a towel and it is out of his eye.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:08 pm to Carlton Banks
very true karate is mainly blitzing in and quickly dashing out which is also similar to fencing
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:10 pm to lsucoonass
he reminds me of a shrimp the way he jump in and out so quickly 
just like a shrimp trying to get away from a pinfish
just like a shrimp trying to get away from a pinfish
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:11 pm to Carlton Banks
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Watch top boxers and tell me his hand speed is great. He's got good hand speed but there are plenty others in the division who are just as fast.
We aren't talking about boxing
Anderson has elite hand speed and head movement for an mma fighter, but he would get tooled by boxing middleweights. quote:
It's much different.
No it's not. Different ways of doing the same thing.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:36 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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give mir cain next I'll be glad to see mir get knocked out again
where does Mir rank all time in the HW divison?
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:39 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:That is false. You are not allowed to wipe the blood with a towel or do anything to a cut while the round is still going on.
It was right above his eye. You wipe the blood away with a towel and it is out of his eye.
The doctor checked to make sure the cut wasn't bleeding down right into his eye.
Cuts are the worst when they are in the middle area of the forehead (as far as forehead cuts go) because it drains down the side of the nose and into the eye.
This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:41 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:I'm saying watch boxing to see what hand speed really is. But even for MMA his hand speed isn't incredible. It's good, but nothing more.
Watch top boxers and tell me his hand speed is great. He's got good hand speed but there are plenty others in the division who are just as fast. We aren't talking about boxing Anderson has elite hand speed and head movement for an mma fighter, but he would get tooled by boxing middleweights. quote: It's much different. No it's not. Different ways of doing the same thing.
And as for your other point, you are simply wrong. You clearly have never boxed or done muay thai.
Tell me, if you were a coach/trainer, would you gameplan in the same way for Machida and Anderson?
If you say yes, then you are simply wrong. If you say no, then they are clearly different.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:03 am to TigerintheNO
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where does Mir rank all time in the HW divison?
Top 12? He is a bad arse.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:04 am to SnookyMonsta
he is a dick in my opinion and delusional. He is however a top 12 hw but will never be champ again too much talent and he's to slow on the feet.
This post was edited on 12/11/11 at 12:05 am
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:09 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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he is a dick in my opinion and delusional. He is however a top 12 hw but will never be champ again too much talent and he's to slow on the feet.
I have no problem with that statement. He is that.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:14 am to diat150
That was so sickkk
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