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re: UFC 140 - Jones vs. Machida - Toronto, Canada - Saturday, December 10th @ 7:00E

Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:29 pm to
I've seen a couple but I mean I base what I see off their last fights. I just think Phil Davis needs the takedown and I don't see that happening against Jones.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:30 pm to
Jones is better, no doubt about it. Davis would give him the most problems physically.
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:34 pm to
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Anderson is essentially the Jon Jones of the middleweight division. That tall lanky frame and being very athletic is the best frame for mma. I think Jones would beat Anderson with his wrestling but in the standup I would never bet against Anderson.
I don't find Anderson to be particularly athletic... I mean he's athletic enough, but no more so than your average fighter.

He's just really good.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:34 pm to
true but I just don't think he could take jones down and I think Jones would demolish him on the feet.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:35 pm to
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I'm wondering if it is possible to only ban "slicing" elbows. I think "smashing" elbows should still be legal. Elbows that smash down into the face aren't intended to cut. Slicing elbows are intentionally used to open up cuts.


Hard to rule between the two though. Hard to prove intent. You could be just trying to smash a guy and if the point of your lbow catches him right he is cut. Just think it took away from this fight. Machida probably still loses but it definitely took away his Mojo.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:36 pm to
Anyone got the Mir gif yet?

And Jones would not beat Silva at this point in his career. Silva would knock him out in 3 rounds tops.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:36 pm to
what differentiates anderson from other fighters is his punches are so crisp and fluid. They aren't your basic punches and kicks you see from other fighters.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:38 pm to
A fight can be ruined because of a lame cut. I think ground elbows should be taken out and keep standing elbows.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:40 pm to
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And Jones would not beat Silva at this point in his career. Silva would knock him out in 3 rounds tops.


Disagree. And Jones now has 16 professional fights and a greco roman background before that.

I would take Jones to beat Silva right now. 60/40 or 65/35.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:40 pm to
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I don't find Anderson to be particularly athletic...

He's pretty athletic
His hand speed and head movement is first rate. Lyoto is A. Silva with a weaker chin and better TD defense. If jones stood with A. Silva he would get KTFO. JJ is too smart for that though. He would elbow the frick out of him on the ground.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:42 pm to
Why are people going on and on about elbows? The cut didn't factor in to the fight. Lyoto was dropped then submitted.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:43 pm to
exactly he'd follow the chael sonnen strat and I don't think Anderson could stop Jones takedown. I only think heavyweights could beat this guy. A JDS vs Jones fight would be amazing.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:44 pm to
I've always been against elbows very rarely do you see a knockout with an elbow but they can cause problematic cuts.
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
1578 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:47 pm to
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what differentiates anderson from other fighters is his punches are so crisp and fluid. They aren't your basic punches and kicks you see from other fighters.
He's good... but his secret is the most important thing that a fighter needs to become a great fighter: timing.

He's got things that can't be taught. His timing is incredible. It's almost as if he's a step ahead of his opponents as if he knows what they are going to do before they do it.

There are fighters who are better physically and punch harder and have faster strikes. But that doesn't matter because he has great timing and accuracy to make up for that.

And I agree that he is extremely fluid. It's not as if he learned to strike in a gym and it's all just things he's rehearsed before. It's as if he is "like water", as Bruce Lee said. He lets the fight flow which is why he has wins in so many different ways.
This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
3022 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:47 pm to
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Disagree. And Jones now has 16 professional fights and a greco roman background before that. I would take Jones to beat Silva right now. 60/40 or 65/35.


His only chance would be to GnP him. He couldn't hang with Silva on his feet for too long. Silva is too accurate and has KO power.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5588 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:48 pm to
Did the fight finish? If not can someone send me a link?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27792 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:48 pm to
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Why are people going on and on about elbows? The cut didn't factor in to the fight. Lyoto was dropped then submitted.


He was shut down by the blood, and blood in his eye. True he was dropped. That was just luck in a fight. It was a "bang bang" strike. Both guys were throwing. Machida's was just a hair off. But the cut I feel played into it some. Machida was just looking to get to the corner after that shot and get that glob of vaseline on there that lasts 10 seconds.
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
1578 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:50 pm to
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He's pretty athletic His hand speed and head movement is first rate. Lyoto is A. Silva with a weaker chin and better TD defense. If jones stood with A. Silva he would get KTFO. JJ is too smart for that though. He would elbow the frick out of him on the ground.
His hand speed isn't incredible. His head movement is very good.

But he still isn't a raw athlete.

And Anderson and Lyoto are nothing alike... at all. Their styles are completely different.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70012 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:53 pm to
well if you cant see whats coming you are bound to get dropped
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
1578 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:54 pm to
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He was shut down by the blood, and blood in his eye. True he was dropped. That was just luck in a fight. It was a "bang bang" strike. Both guys were throwing. Machida's was just a hair off. But the cut I feel played into it some. Machida was just looking to get to the corner after that shot and get that glob of vaseline on there that lasts 10 seconds.
The blood wasn't in his eye. That is what the doctor was checking for.

And there is no such thing as luck in a fight. If you got hit, then you made a mistake.

Jones blocked his punch and Machida didn't keep his chin down and hand up and got caught with a left.

He made a mistake and paid the price.
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