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Trevor Lawrence declares for NFL Draft

Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:11 am
No surprise here, obviously.

ESPN
Posted by Kermit Mahomes
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:12 am to
RIP
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:13 am to
Tears will be shed by the MSM that he exits CFB without a heisman. The 222 people that voted him first should have their votes revoked.

Jacksonville is a good situation for him though. I think he has Luck's talent but not sure he has the same head for the game. I see a Stafford type career moreso than a brees/rodgers/brady/mahomes. Jacksonville has a pretty solid group of young players though that will flourish with the right coaching hire and offseason personnel moves
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 10:16 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:18 am to
I guess it's better than going to the Jets but the Jaguars aren't far behind. The owner is as bad as Jerry Jones.
Will they ever end up in London? I assume once COVID is over they will go back to playing games across the pond.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:24 am to
one could argue Luck was headed for the Stafford trajectory himself
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:25 am to
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Tears will be shed by the MSM that he exits CFB without a heisman. The 222 people that voted him first should have their votes revoked.


Gtfo

Dude started for three seasons, lost 2 games, and was in the playoffs each year.

Easily the best resume this season. He lost because covid and woke media
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:27 am to
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Easily the best resume this season. He lost because covid and woke media
Yea, no. Smith was a beast and the obvious Heisman this year. The Heisman only matters for one year Lawrence's resume is irrelevant.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:27 am to
If you’re Lawrence and the Jets are at 1, do you still declare?
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:28 am to
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Smith was a beast
absolutely. No doubt about it


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The Heisman only matters for one year Lawrence's resume is irrelevant.


History disagrees
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:29 am to
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History disagrees


So Tua should have won last year then?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:30 am to
its pretty incredible that he will leave college without winning the Heisman

Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:30 am to
There’s no way that Lawrence deserved the Heisman over Smith.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:31 am to
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History disagrees


So Tua should have won last year then?


Bad comparison is bad

Lawrence had nearly a season more of starts than Tua.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:35 am to
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Bad comparison is bad


How? He had a much better career than Burrow, plus he's of color since that apparently factors in for you.

Or was Burrow's 2019 such an impressive season that it overshadowed a great career. That sounds familiar.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:39 am to
Heisman precedent tends to be that it is a Lifetime Achievement Award for a good player rather than the best player that season.

Billy Cannon, for example, didn’t play nearly as well the season he won as the year previous when LSU won a title but John David Crow took home the Heisman.

Herschel Walker also got fricked on the Heisman early in his college career by not getting it while putting up record numbers. He finally got it as a Junior.


Am I saying Lawrence should have won it over Devonta? No. But the Heisman voters have a history of going with longevity over single season achievements.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:41 am to
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Bad comparison is bad


How?


I just told you. Read.

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He had a much better career than Burrow


Much better? Tua threw 76 TDs in 2 seasons to Burrow's......gasp....76 TDs in 2 seasons.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 10:42 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:42 am to
Your decades old examples don't really jive with their more recent votes.

The most recent one you could say resembled a career achievement award was Smith in 2007.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 10:46 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:43 am to
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Much better? Tua threw 76 TDs in 2 seasons to Burrow's......gasp....76 TDs in 2 seasons.


Well this is just disingenuous as hell, but we already knew that with your blazing hot woke take.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:45 am to
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Am I saying Lawrence should have won it over Devonta? No. But the Heisman voters have a history of going with longevity over single season achievements.


Then explain Tebow winning it as a Sophomore in 2007. The next year he is in the BCS Championship game at 12-1 but loses it to, yet another Sophomore, Sam Bradford. 2009 was Ingram as a Sophomore. Manziel was a RS Freshman in 2012, as well as Jameis in 2013. Maybe it used to be that way, but over the last 10-15 years it has become a best individual season, or best player on best team award.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:47 am to
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Well this is just disingenuous as hell, but we already knew that with your blazing hot woke take.

lots of words with no substance.

Never change

If you want to talk best season, Mac Jones is holding that trophy.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 10:48 am
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