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Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:13 pm to
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Move was fine.


Maybe in a one day race but not in the Tour to a GC wearing yellow. But again, that's my opinion.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:17 pm to
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Maybe in a one day race but not in the Tour to a GC wearing yellow. But again, that's my opinion.



Okay, but why?

So wearing the yellow means that you can frick up and others have to allow you to frick up and not take advantage of it?

I will take it a step further and say that the wherever - Paris leg is bullshite as it is basically a coronation ride. Let them keep racing. Screw that yellow jersey mystique.
Posted by usc6158
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:17 pm to
normally with something like a flat, I'd say it was a bitch move, but dropping a chain means schleck fricked up and was in a bad gear. That's on him
Posted by Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:17 pm to
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It's a race. Why the hell would someone stop and wait?


There are many unwritten rules in the Tour. One has always been you don't attack the yellow jersey if he crashes or has a mechanical. When Lance caught the spectators bag during a climb a few years ago, Ullrich did not attack. He sat up and waited for Lance to get back.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:19 pm to
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Okay, but why?

I didn't come up with the unwritten rule.


quote:


Paris leg is bullshite as it is basically a coronation ride. Let them keep racing. Screw that yellow jersey mystique.

it use to be that way.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:20 pm to
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Ullrich did not attack. He sat up and waited for Lance to get back



As he should have done!

Kidding...kidding...
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:21 pm to
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I didn't come up with the unwritten rule.



Ohhhhh...

So you just agree with it because it is an unwritten Frenchy rule.

fricking traitor!
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:25 pm to
To be the man, you have to beat the man. You do not want any excuses.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:37 pm to
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When Lance caught the spectators bag during a climb a few years ago, Ullrich did not attack. He sat up and waited for Lance to get back.
And Lance did not attack Ullrich when he rode off the side of the road in 2001(?). Lance wiated for Ullrich before ripping his guts out honestly. It's about beating your foe straight up and not due to some bit of blind luck.

Since it was the last climb of the day and the other contders were right there, I'm a little bit conflicted about this, but Contador's post race comments show that he knows he is in the wrong.
Posted by The Ramp
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:38 pm to
Contador a punk arse bitch? No surprise there....
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:41 pm to
I think once Menchov and Sanchez caught up with Alberto, it was race on to those 3. Alberto will probably take all the flak too and unfairly.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:43 pm to
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Contador a punk arse bitch? No surprise there...

Why? because he didnt' get along with another major prick on the same team last year?
Posted by The Ramp
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:46 pm to
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Why? because he didnt' get along with another major prick on the same team last year?


that major prick never pulled that stunt or allowed anyone else to. besides alberto has been a bitch for a long time
Posted by The Ramp
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:54 pm to
*edit*

wrong thread
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:55 pm to
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besides alberto has been a bitch for a long time

Why? over what?
Posted by The Ramp
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 4:02 pm
Posted by PresterJohn
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:25 pm to
Not a punk move for the following reasons:

1. the problem was Schleck's own fault, not bad luck (he flubbed the shift--it wasn't a mechanical failure);

2. It was a critical time in the race;

3. Contador followed the third and fourth-placed riders - he couldn't afford to sacrifice any more time to them

I don't particularly like AC's personality, but this IS racing, after all. Even Armstrong didn't call him out, so give the guy a break.
Posted by Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:55 pm to
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1. the problem was Schleck's own fault, not bad luck (he flubbed the shift--it wasn't a mechanical failure);


I haven't heard, did he admit this? I've had chains/ gears do weird things on my bike while racing. Especially when standing to climb.

quote:

2. It was a critical time in the race;


And Schleck was the one attacking.

quote:

3. Contador followed the third and fourth-placed riders - he couldn't afford to sacrifice any more time to them


As I stated, I think they are all punks. But contador could have followed Menchov and Sanchez and not helped. He could have also told them to slow down although they may or may not have listened. Bottom line is Contador saw Schleck had a mechanical. He had no way of knowing, as you suggest, that it was Schlecks fault the chain slipped. It may have been a broken chain for all contador knew.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 5:50 pm to
Why is everyone forgetting that they didnt attack and waited for Shleck when he crashed, so one time ok a sencond no they dont wait. Contador should not be discredited for this, Menchov and Sanchez attacked also.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 5:59 pm to
first time waiting was for the whole field to regroup wasn't it? It wasn't specifically for Andy.

By thursday two things need to happen. Alberto can open his gap by killing it the next two days or on the TT shutting everybody up. Or Andy do the same. Otherwise, if 30 seconds is the difference, Tour drama for Yeats to come.
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