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Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
I didn't realize Crawford was 37. He doesn't look it at all
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:50 pm to GeauxAggie972
Guys I'm hearing rumblings that may be on the move/part of the deal.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:I agree with your premise, but I don't know if you can consider Carmelo an star at this stage of his career. Now maybe it was a result of discontent in NY, but Carmelo has gotten progressively worse over the last 4 seasons. But that could also he because he's 33, and on the downside of his career.
They were good in the regular season. They were streaky in the playoffs because the entire team hinged on James Harden. The playoffs are all about star power. If they had Harden, Paul, and Carmelo, they now have 3 legit scoring options instead of 1. Much less likely all 3 have off nights so it makes their great offense much more consistent and more difficult for teams to stop.
Paul still is, so they do add one star.
quote:Of course, but LeBron is/was better than anybody on the Rockets, but more importantly, the Warriors are much better than that team with the addition of Durant.
Individual series are different. Cleveland was outmatched defensively two season ago and they beat them in the Finals.
Again. Unless Warriors have injury issues, I just don't see any team making much of a series against them. They are too good offensively and defensively. They were the best team in history last year, and Durant was adjusting to a new team, and missed 20 games.
In addition, Thompson played the most minutes (2649), which was only about 67% of the total minutes, and 21st in the league. So when the playoffs come around, and the best players increase their minutes, the Warriors are more rested AND their team quality improves significantly.
It's basically the opposite of what the Rockets had, with Harden (2947) and Arizona (2773) playing significantly more minutes than anybody on the Warriors. So obviously fatigue is a potential risk, but the Rockets' potential quality gains with playoff minutes are inherently lower.
So what I'm saying is that, the Warriors should be better this season, and last season, despite already being one of the most dominant regular season teams of all time, their regular season team was not near the quality of their playoff team.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:01 pm to buckeye_vol
Has there been any discussion on Demarre Carroll's comments regarding the Raptors?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:12 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:Top 10 seems a big step. They would have to improve by 1.5* points per 10 possessions. Beverly for Paul is probably a wash, but Paul is not getting younger. PJ Tucker is a good addition.
The Rockets improved on defense this offseason. I'm not saying they are on Golden State's level defensively because they were one of the top defensive teams, but the Rockets could get into the top 10 this upcoming season.
So I can see it improving, but 1.5* points is a lot, but the biggest issue is that D'Antoni just hasn't shown that he's a competent defensive coach, and with new pieces and parts, there is always adjustments, but I think defense is at the most risk of problematic adjustments.
Edit: *I incorrectly said 2.5 points when it's actually 1.5 points.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:20 pm to buckeye_vol
They were less than .5 points per 100 possessions from top 10 exactly one week from seasons end when they called the dogs off and started to Prep for the playoffs. When you just look at the numbers and miss context (your forte I might add) you get a lot of swing and misses.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:28 pm to c on z
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Has there been any discussion on Demarre Carroll's comments regarding the Raptors?
im curious, have a link?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:20 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Since the last game was on 04/12/17, and the 04/05/17 game, they only game up 104 points, I'm assuming the "last week" refers to the last 4 games starting on 04/07/17.
They were less than .5 points per 100 possessions from top 10 exactly one week from seasons end when they called the dogs off and started to Prep for the playoffs. When you just look at the numbers and miss context (your forte I might add) you get a lot of swing and misses.
Since they were calling off the dogs, I assume the main players barely played during that time.
Games and Average Minutes over Last 4 Games (difference from season average)
Harden-4 games-33.2 MPG (3.2 less than season average)
Ariza-3 games- 36.4 MPG (1.7 more than season average)
Gordon-3 games- 27.3 MPG (3.7 less than season average)
Beverly-3 games- 30.3 MPG (0.4 less than season average)
Anderson-4 games- 22.0 MPG (7.4 less than season average)
L. Williams-3 games-26.0 MPG (0.3 more than season average)
Capela-2 games- 26.8 MPG (2.9 more than season average)
So yeah. Obviously with most of the players sitting out a game (except Harden and Anderson) the team wasn't as good, but Harden still played in almost 70% of the minutes, and the other player played significant minutes in the games they played.
Yet, you had a defensive rating of 121.3 in those 4 games, 12.1 above the average ratings of those teams. Yet, your offensive rating of 115.8 was 6.2 points higher above those team's defensive ratings.
So while your defensive rating increased by 1.2 points as a result of the last few games, your offensive rating increased by 0.6 points. So I'm sure you don't consider that offensive rating increase either, nor Harden's increase in rebounds and assists above his season average. In fact, when you were talking about the Rocket's final season record, compared to their preseason prediction, I'm sure you don't count those 2 wins either. After all, they were just coasting right?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:32 pm to buckeye_vol
they sat everybody but harden one game. Some guys multiple games. They shut it down. Again if you didn't watch and only looked at the numbers you would swing and miss. Like you just did. They were within a point or two of being top 10 For the majority of the season. Up until the last week of the season when they started resting guys.
Move on bubby you barking up the wrong tree. You don't have any context re: effort bc you didn't watch.
Move on bubby you barking up the wrong tree. You don't have any context re: effort bc you didn't watch.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:39 pm to Boomshockalocka
Or do me a favor and look at the 4/6 rankings. Less than .3 ppp from top 10.
From there they sat multiple players the next two games and then had the season finale.
But yea this team is clearly 2.5 ppp from being a top 10 kinda defense
From there they sat multiple players the next two games and then had the season finale.
But yea this team is clearly 2.5 ppp from being a top 10 kinda defense
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:39 pm to buckeye_vol
Debating with Boom is like trying to convince Satan he's evil. He simply DGAF.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:45 pm to theducks
The dude has no basketball acumen. He said CC was 2.5 points from being a top 10 d even though they were .3 points away with less than a week left in the season before they sat multiple players to close the season. But he's gonna judge them based on games at season end when they were just getting rested up for the playoffs.
don't be a such an idiot and you won't get called out.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:In fact, I was given you the benefit of the doubt, it was actually 3 games, because against Detroit (game 78) everybody played.
they sat everybody but harden one game.
In the one game, Ariza and Gordon didn't play (2nd on team in minutes), here were the minutes for the other top players:
Harden-36.0 minutes
Beverly-28.8 minutes
Capela-23.8 minutes
L. Williams-31.2 minutes
Anderson-23.1 minutes
And in the other 2 games, Harden, Ariza, Gordon, and Anderson played.
The Clippers game was the game where Beverly, Lou, and Capela sat. Gordon and Harden were pulled with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter, down 23 already (83-60), so Ariza + the reserves actually gave far fewer points by that time.
quote:When your star player plays significant minutes in all 4 games, and most of your top players play significant minutes in most of the games, it's hard to call THAT shutting it down. The Cavs shut it down, with Kyrie and Lebron sitting out the last 2 games.
They shut it down
quote:But they were not the same team defensively the last half of the season.
They were within a point or two of being top 10
After your 31-9 start, you had a defensive rating of 108.9. After that AND EXCLUDING those 3 COASTING games, you had a defensive rating of 110.0 (110.6 including those coasting games). So your team's defense decreased by 1.1 points per game.
quote:Well apparently you didn't watch, since you said they rested everybody but Harden in a game, when that is completely false. Or you did watch the game, and you're being dishonest.
Move on bubby you barking up the wrong tree. You don't have any context re: effort bc you didn't watch.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:03 pm to buckeye_vol
buckeye just poleaxed Piñata again.
This cyber-bullying is getting out of hand
This cyber-bullying is getting out of hand
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:03 pm to buckeye_vol
With 3 games left in the season they were .3 points from being top 10.
In the next two games they sat multiple rotations players. At least 3 in each.
And then had the last game of the season.
And you stick to your guns and insist that the team before they shut it down is a more accurate representation of the squad than how they looked before they sat multiple guys.
Wow. You don't know when to take a L huh.
In the next two games they sat multiple rotations players. At least 3 in each.
And then had the last game of the season.
And you stick to your guns and insist that the team before they shut it down is a more accurate representation of the squad than how they looked before they sat multiple guys.
Wow. You don't know when to take a L huh.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:06 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Feel bad for the lil dork
he's so stuck to his numbers that common sense and context escapes him.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:09 pm to Boomshockalocka
You were the one on the receiving end of said poleaxing, you dummkopf. Since I have to spoonfeed you.
Up in here talking about taking L's when you could fill up an ocean liner with yours this past year alone
Up in here talking about taking L's when you could fill up an ocean liner with yours this past year alone
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:15 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Way to go!! Use the big words. That'll get you the up votes!!
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