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Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3182 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 3:00 pm to
There's no way that Bartman was at fault for what happened. That being said, I remember around that time they were showing clips of fans who did back out of the way to let their team catch balls near the wall (especially in Chicago media). So to say that every fan would have "done the same thing" is probably a false statement.

I remember thinking at the time that the Cubs losing history was probably more influential in that play than the fan itself. The fan base that had built up over the years had not done so watching much meaningful baseball. It's a collection of people who casually watched WGN in the early cable days or perhaps headed over to Wrigley for some day drinking.

I'm a Cubs fan (and my fiance is a Cardinals fan), and as much as I'd hate to say it, I don't think the average adult male Cardinals fan with front row seats to a potential NLCS clinching game in 2003 at Busch is making the same play that particular Cubs fan made.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6381 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 3:10 pm to
Be more specific than people in Chicago. Cubs fans and Cubs media tried to destroy Bartman.
And today we have Golic saying that Chicago should forgive him. Chicago? Forgive him foe what? He did nothing wrong.

It's whether Bartman will forgive Cubs fans that should be in question.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64787 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 3:19 pm to
How trashy are you to wish heartbreak on an entire fanbase over something that happened over a decade ago?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64787 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

He did nothing wrong.
Debatable. Savvy fans will never get in the way of the home team's player trying to catch a foul ball. Let alone put their hands directly above the player's glove. Did he deserve everything that happened afterward? Absolutely not. Did he make a gigantic boneheaded move? Absolutely.
This post was edited on 10/21/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

How trashy are you to wish heartbreak on an entire fanbase over something that happened over a decade ago?
someone is going to be heartbroken, good enough for me
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35898 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

and then we leave it trashed how it belongs.



Whoa whoa whoa...keep Wisconsin beautiful brah.

And I don't think goldenbadger is a sconnie guy.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35898 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

It has changed a lot, but you have to admit their is a large portion who are into the scene.


Watch highlights going back to the 80s, the bleachers are the craziest most into the game fans going. Same holds today. It's the student section of wrigley field. Cubs fans fill other stadiums constantly. If they were just into the scene, there would be no reason for Cubs fans to watch them anywhere else.

(Also a season ticket holder, split with buddies...though our group just came up last year.)
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 4:08 pm to
Lol my family owns property up there, been vacationing to sconnie since I was a kid. I'm just trying to tell that dude off for being a bitch and talking about where I'm from. I've had some of the best times of my life on many a different lakes mostly lake Geneva in Wisconsin. Not to mention the blast I had this year up in Green Bay for the LSU game minus the game itself
Posted by Chief10
Member since Sep 2016
202 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 4:25 pm to
Cubs are shitty
Cubs fans are shitty
Ricketts are shitty
Wrigleyville is shitty
Cubs fans comments are shitty
Wrigley field is shitty
Dirty people will always be attracted to shite.


Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86129 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

They're the worst. They deserve all the heartbreak they've had and hopefully will continue to have.



That ship has sailed now that they've locked up the NLCS
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35898 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 4:26 pm to


I agree with you. That guy can eat a bag of dicks. No one is bringing me down from the enjoyment and anticipation of this.

And I agree with you on the 'scons. Great place with good people that I'll defend it with vigor.

Where does your family own a place? My family has a place on South Twin Lake, just outside of Eagle River. Spent every summer of my life up there.
Posted by Geauxrilla Ballz
S'port
Member since Jan 2009
672 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 4:42 pm to
What a load of BS. The dude is an idiot, and it's a shame that he got pelted - but it is what it is.

I forgive the dude, and would buy him a beer and listen to his woes.
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 5:51 pm to
It's in conover..... pioneer lake. We actually just got it a few years back and finally finishing everything up. Very nice area and all the rec activities my heart can desire. Already got atvs, go karts and a boat. next toys gonna be snowmobiles but idk about this winter them things are expensive!!
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8927 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:09 pm to
No worse that Boston treated Buckner
Posted by Butch stones
RockyTop
Member since Jun 2016
2889 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:10 pm to
There was like 3 other fans trying to catch the ball as well.. The witch hunt that happened after was ridiculous even to this day, 13 years later
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216195 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:14 pm to
It wasn't Bartmens fault that they lost....
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64787 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

There was like 3 other fans trying to catch the ball as well.
What? No there weren't.



Notice how EVERYONE ELSE backed off? He reached OVER the wall DIRECTLY ABOVE Alou's glove. He made a bonehead move. He didn't deserve the treatment he got, but it's bullshite to say he didn't do anything wrong.

This post was edited on 10/21/16 at 8:18 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216195 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:19 pm to
Doesn't matter.... The Cubs STILL had a chance to win the game....FACT.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64787 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

The Cubs STILL had a chance to win the game
Did I say they didn't? Simmer down you old coot.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5733 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 9:33 pm to
There is CLEARLY more than one fan going for the ball in this video.
LINK

So that picture you posted was misleading.

quote:

Notice how EVERYONE ELSE backed off?


Yea after it hit Bartmans hands. Could've just as easily hit the other guys hands to his right.
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