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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:48 am to RedHawk
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:48 am to RedHawk
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But he caught the ball, took three steps and lunged for the goal line all before the ball hit the ground.
see?
I can't take you people seriously when y'all say this
this is obviously not even close to what happened
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:50 am to Salmon
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Salmon
if I ever murder someone,I sure hope you are on the jury.The minute my defense attorney goes to "reasonable doubt" I know I'll have your vote.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:51 am to Salmon
Salmon, please point to where you are reading in the rules the stretch has to be a "full stretch where like your elbows extend". I would like to read that
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:53 am to lsupride87
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please point to where you are reading in the rules the stretch has to be a "full stretch where like your elbows extend".
its not in the rules...obviously
but him barely moving his shoulder forward could have been him just bracing himself for the fall?
point is...it was in no way an obvious "football move", if he would have been fully extended, it would have been
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:54 am to Salmon
quote:In fairness, we're discussing the play and not overreacting or saying "I don't know how anyone could think that was incomplete", we're being fairly rational about it.
Y'all are acting like he was fully extended going towards the goal line
I never said how much or little he stretched, but he stretched. The rule doesn't specify how far you have to stretch, it just says a stretch, and you even admitted he stretched.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:55 am to Salmon
quote:Completely agree, so how the hell do you overturn it?
point is...it was in no way an obvious "football move", if he would have been fully extended, it would have been
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:58 am to shel311
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we're discussing the play and not overreacting or saying "I don't know how anyone could think that was incomplete", we're being fairly rational about it.
the guy saying he took 3 steps and dove for the endzone is being rational about it?
I don't even care about the NFL rules, my opinion is based off if it would have counted as a catch in backyard football and with my friends...no way that would have been a catch
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:58 am to lsupride87
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so how the hell do you overturn it?
they didn't consider it a football move?
and does that rule state that you have to retain possession through the football move?
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 8:59 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:00 am to Salmon
It wasn't an obvious football move, in my opinion.
It looked like he was just tumbling to the ground the entire time.
I do think that if the DB doesn't tip the ball out of Dez's hands initially, causing him to bobble the ball for a moment, that the referees might have let it stand.
As it is, it looks like he just stumbles to the ground and doesn't secure the ball all the way through.
It looked like he was just tumbling to the ground the entire time.
I do think that if the DB doesn't tip the ball out of Dez's hands initially, causing him to bobble the ball for a moment, that the referees might have let it stand.
As it is, it looks like he just stumbles to the ground and doesn't secure the ball all the way through.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:01 am to NawlinsTiger9
That's how I see it, too.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:02 am to Salmon
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my opinion is based off if it would have counted as a catch in backyard football and with my friends
Even "experts" who sided with the over turn rule say in everyday football it was a catch.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:02 am to Salmon
quote:So, again, it sounds like you're saying you don't think he intended to stretch, but you aren't 100% certain what his intent was. Is that a fair assessment of your opinion?
but him barely moving his shoulder forward could have been him just bracing himself for the fall?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:04 am to Salmon
quote:Wait wait wait, this opens up a whole other can of worms.
I don't even care about the NFL rules, my opinion is based off if it would have counted as a catch in backyard football and with my friends...no way that would have been a catch
If you're playing pick up football and you're on defense and attempt to call this incomplete, that would be no different than being the guy in pickup basketball trying to take charges and calling charges all game. Calling that incomplete is causing fist fights and/or everyone fighting until the game is just called off.
I'll gladly debate the play in the NFL game, but there is no way that's not a catch in the backyard.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:05 am to shel311
quote:
it sounds like you're saying you don't think he intended to stretch, but you aren't 100% certain what his intent was. Is that a fair assessment of your opinion?
I never said I didn't think he intended to stretch
I just said it wasn't obvious what his intent was like most of y'all are claiming
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:05 am to Salmon
quote:If it's not obvious what his intent was, it's not indisputable, no?
I just said it wasn't obvious what his intent was like most of y'all are claiming
I ask that given that you conceded he stretched, even if it wasn't a full stretch.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:06 am to NawlinsTiger9
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As it is, it looks like he just stumbles to the ground and doesn't secure the ball all the way through.
To me, it looks like he reaches out towards the goal line, in an attempt to score.
How they can 100% be sure that he wasn't doing that, and overturn that call, is pretty remarkable.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:06 am to shel311
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If you're playing pick up football and you're on defense and attempt to call this incomplete
the ball popped out...without replay and whatnot, it would be hard to call that a catch
I'd argue the shite out of it
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:06 am to lsupride87
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Completely agree, so how the hell do you overturn it?
This is what I don't understand about those who wanted it overturned...I thought there had to be "indisputable video evidence" to overturn a call that was already on the books? There was clearly a lot of doubt surrounding this particular incident.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:07 am to Salmon
Have you ever fallen down? Have you ever fallen down and taken 3 steps in the middle of the fall? If so, what was the purpose of the 3 steps?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:07 am to Cajunchick
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There was clearly a lot of doubt surrounding this particular incident.
apparently not for the replay official
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