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Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:51 pm to
Wait how is a football move irrelevant. Lol
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112666 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
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That's debatable.

sure it's debatable.

But switching his ball hand and a stretch at the end, you can't say it was indisputable, correct?

If it's debatable, then it shouldn't have been overturned.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
By your own post do you agree the ruling should have stood?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468268 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Are there really people in here arguing the ball never touched the ground...

there is not indisputable evidence that the ball hit the ground
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15584 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
How is this thread 15 pages? That pass was easily incomplete. Falling down isn't a football move and the ball clearly hit the ground and popped up.

A lot of delusion up in here.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76615 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
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It's not. It's about maintaining control through the catch. That's what makes it incomplete, not the steps.
Exactly.

This isn't hard to understand.
Posted by Edearl Watson
Parts Unknown
Member since May 2012
6782 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
He definitely made a "football move"......He caught the f'n football!
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52161 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:53 pm to
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Then it's not indisputable. 


Him not controlling the ball through the catch was indisputable
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15584 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

there is not indisputable evidence that the ball hit the ground


Please tell me you're kidding
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112666 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Falling down isn't a football move 
What about switching your ball hand and the stretch?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

there is not indisputable evidence that the ball hit the ground
Yes there is. There was a camera on the other side of the field that showed the ball hitting the ground.
Posted by TigerSaints318
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
Not a catch
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37044 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
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Exactly.

This isn't hard to understand


If he makes a football move it doesn't have to be controlled to the ground

It's definitely understandable that this is debatable
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112666 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Him not controlling the ball through the catch was indisputable
That's irrelevant if you can't determine if he made a football move either way, indisputably.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
At the end of the day, the only way to say he didn't make a football move is to assume he wasn't stretching for the endzone but rather just falling down.

That is not what the refs are paid to do, and that is not enough to overturn a call of a catch.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16371 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
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quote: as has been said, he made a football move, so the completed catch was already done,so the rest doesn't apply.


Dude... Just because you make a football move doesn't mean the catch is completed. If that's how it was then you would be able to bobble the ball for 15 yards, without securing the ball, and then when the ball hits the ground it would be a fumble and not an incomplete.

You have to secure the catch ffirst and show clear possession. If the ball is moving / bobbling, it doesn't matter what you do until you secure the catch.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74038 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Another great point, how is switching hands not a football move?





switching hands?

dive?

cmon man
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39656 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm to
No, not according to the rule. He's falling as soon as he hits the ground. He must complete the act of the catch, which includes falling to the ground. He didn't do that
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15584 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:55 pm to
Even then, he doesn't complete the process of the catch through the ground.

If anything, the stretch is what screwed him.
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