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re: Tonights game is the most important game of the series IMO.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:05 am to brgfather129
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:05 am to brgfather129
What you're failing to remember, PhilTiger, is that Conley was banged up. More importantly, however, Tony Allen got hurt, and subsequently crippled the otherwise "stout" Memphis defense.
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:09 am to whoknows1390
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Bogut, Green, and Barnes have literally been worthless the entire series.
This is why its 2-1 Cavs....
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:13 am to brgfather129
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You can't ignore the fact that GS has been missing an inordinate number of uncontested shots though.
Do you have numbers to back this up? The point remains that it is Cleveland's gameplan that took GS out of their status quo normalities of good offense (I say good because they haven't been that "great" in the playoffs, they have the #5 offense and take the most 3s). If you throw off someone's shot while contesting them and throwing looks at them that they aren't use to, it will surely effect the uncontested shots.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 9:15 am
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:14 am to 13SaintTiger
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Do you have numbers to back this up?
I know they were 12-39 on shots where there was no defender within 3.5 feet after Game 2. Have no idea what the numbers were in Game 3.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:14 am to dukke v
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Bogut, Green, and Barnes have literally been worthless the entire series.
and jr smith and shump have not did a thing. If one or both of them get hot... watch out
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:22 am to Tiger Nation 84
I agree.
If the Cavs win tonight, while the may not close it out in 5, it's hard to see that they won't be able to summon enough emotion and energy to win in 6.
Lose tonight, and despite all the heart, effort and energy Cleveland has shown, you're still back to square one with the better team having the home court advantage the rest of the way.
Even before the Irving injury I thought GS would win in 5. It's been fun to watch just how hard Cleveland is playing
If the Cavs win tonight, while the may not close it out in 5, it's hard to see that they won't be able to summon enough emotion and energy to win in 6.
Lose tonight, and despite all the heart, effort and energy Cleveland has shown, you're still back to square one with the better team having the home court advantage the rest of the way.
Even before the Irving injury I thought GS would win in 5. It's been fun to watch just how hard Cleveland is playing
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:25 am to Tiger Nation 84
really stepping out on a ledge with this analysis
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:27 am to brgfather129
quote:Because the Cavs have taken them out of rhythm causing them to lose confidence. The entire team didn't forget how to shoot. There's a reason for it. I don't understand why people are so hesitant to accept this.
This is partially true and they deserve a lot of credit for what they have done defensively throughout the playoffs. You can't ignore the fact that GS has been missing an inordinate number of uncontested shots though.
When you don't even guard a guy (Iggy, Barnes, and Dray) while they shoot threes, it gets into their head, and they haven't been able to shake off their rattled confidence.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:30 am to PhiTiger1764
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So it's impossible for Cleveland to lose by 20+ despite all of that relevant points I just made?
not impossible but saying something will happen to Cleveland because of Memphis is dumb
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:33 am to jturn17
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Because the Cavs have taken them out of rhythm causing them to lose confidence. The entire team didn't forget how to shoot. There's a reason for it. I don't understand why people are so hesitant to accept this.
No no, it's because GS magically forgot how to shoot a basketball. The monstars stole their powers, it has nothing to do with Cleveland
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:33 am to oleyeller
Player Name/Regular Season PPG/Playoff PPG/Finals PPG/PPG differential for Finals vs Playoffs
Barnes: 10.1 / 10.7 / 7.3 / -3.4
Green: 11.7 / 13.3 / 9.7 / -3.6
Bogut: 6.3 / 4.9 / 3.3 / -1.6
Shumpert: 8.0 / 9.3 / 5.3 / -4.0
Smith: 12.1 / 12.9 / 10.7 / -2.2
I'd say it's a wash.
Barnes: 10.1 / 10.7 / 7.3 / -3.4
Green: 11.7 / 13.3 / 9.7 / -3.6
Bogut: 6.3 / 4.9 / 3.3 / -1.6
Shumpert: 8.0 / 9.3 / 5.3 / -4.0
Smith: 12.1 / 12.9 / 10.7 / -2.2
I'd say it's a wash.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:34 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:This is just dumb. The Cleveland team in the Finals isn't the Cleveland team from the 14-15 season. The roster is completely different. You had mid-season additions of Iman, JR, and Mozgov. Plus injuries to Love and Kyrie. It's silly to point at regular season performance. This is an elite defensive team. Maybe they aren't better than Memphis, but they're right there with them.
Also, virtually every team defensive statistic points to Memphis being a better defensive team than Cleveland during the 14-15 season.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:35 am to Tiger Nation 84
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Tonights game is the most important game of the series IMO
You can say this every single game day..
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:35 am to Carson123987
exactly. What a crazy thought from the OP. It's much more important to Golden State IMO. If they lose tonight, it's over. If the Cavs lose, it will be tough, but they've still got a shot.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:37 am to jturn17
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Maybe they aren't better than Memphis, but they're right there with them
Cleveland's D is better than Memphis' D.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:38 am to GeauxWarTigers
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Player Name/Regular Season PPG/Playoff PPG/Finals PPG/PPG differential for Finals vs Playoffs
Barnes: 10.1 / 10.7 / 7.3 / -3.4
Green: 11.7 / 13.3 / 9.7 / -3.6
Bogut: 6.3 / 4.9 / 3.3 / -1.6
Shumpert: 8.0 / 9.3 / 5.3 / -4.0
Smith: 12.1 / 12.9 / 10.7 / -2.2
I'd say it's a wash.
i agree, this was my point though. The talk earlier in the thread was that barnes and green have done nothing. I was just stating thay jr and shump have been bad also. And if they get hot it would be dangerous.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:38 am to Tiger Nation 84
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Tonights game is the most important game of the series IMO.
I think the winner tonight probably wins the series.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:45 am to CocomoLSU
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Tonights game is the most important game of the series IMO.
I think the winner tonight probably wins the series.
pressure is still on golden state.. they know they have to win 2 games in cleveland now. The cavs know they dont have to win in golden state again.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:48 am to Tiger Nation 84
I agree. The Cavs have to win tonight. I hope they're ready.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:56 am to oleyeller
GS technically doesn't have to win 2 in CLE, but I like many others don't think LBJ will lose 3 in a row if he's up 3-1.
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