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re: Tom Landry's Tenure as the First HC of the Dallas Cowboys
Posted on 1/23/25 at 10:39 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 1/23/25 at 10:39 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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You all need to read North Dallas Forty and God's Coach. He was a man of contradictions. Hard to believe that someone who loved Jesus so much was so hard and cruel to his players
One of the reasons my dad never liked him. Great coach…but an emotionless being on the sideline. Duane Thomas called him “plastic man”. It seems lots of former stars on those Cowboys saw through some of the BS. I think you could argue that Dallas could have achieved more in their glory years.
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 10:55 pm to TexasTiger08
Even though Landry played in the league, I'm not sure he related all that well with his players.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:41 pm to ragincajun03
And Tex Schramm was the GM who built those teams. Now they have Jerry building teams.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:05 am to CSinLC
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He was calling the offensive plays while most teams QBs were still doing it.
He called the plays on offense while also coordinating the defense throughout most of his career.
Landry also played DB for the NY Giants. In 1954, the Giants hired a new head coach. Landry quickly understood the new schemes, and was soon coaching his fellow teammates, and suggesting tweaks to the head coach.
The coach was so impressed and relied on Landry so heavily, that Landry was named Defensive Coordinator while still playing. The offensive coordinator was Vince Lombardi. Landry and Lombardi would go on to coach together on the same staff for five seasons.
That 1954 season Landry was an All-Pro defensive back, had 8 interceptions, while also serving as DC, and also was the team’s punter.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 6:12 am to TexasTiger08
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It seems lots of former stars on those Cowboys saw through some of the BS
A lot of the public wanted him gone until he was fired by Jerry, then they were pissed.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:17 am to Wally Sparks
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:44 am to ragincajun03
It’s crazy to think that he probably wouldn’t have lasted in today’s NFL based on his record in his first few seasons.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:54 am to Zappas Stache
Speaking of Jerry, once you see this you can’t unsee
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:14 pm to TexasTiger08
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Gil Brandt was a master at uncovering talent from small schools
Glad you mentioned him, he doesn’t get nearly enough credit for helping build those historic teams.
He used the be on the NFL network on XM all the time, especially during the offseason talking about talent evaluation. Really insightful and entertaining guy.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:55 pm to Coach C
Sickest man in America!
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:05 pm to ragincajun03
quote:After the Naval Academy he spent 4 in the Navy before starting his NFL career, and he retired while still playing well due to concussions and a warning from a doctor about getting another one. Could have had some additional seasons of success added to what he had.
I think of Staubauch as definitely great, probably doesn't get enough credit when people think of the greatest QBs of all time.
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During his final NFL season in 1979, Staubach had career highs in completions (267), passing yards (3,586), and touchdown passes (27), with just 11 interceptions. He retired at the conclusion of the season in order to protect his long-term health, declining the Cowboys' offer for two more seasons. He suffered 20 concussions in his playing career, including six in which he said he was "knocked out". After suffering two concussions in 1979, a doctor at Cornell told Staubach that while his brain tests were fine at the moment, another concussion could have life-altering consequences. He chose to retire and was replaced as the Cowboys starting quarterback by Danny White.
quote:I really haven’t look at this before, but it would be interesting along with seeing if Landry had them continue to drop back after getting the shotgun snap as far as current players seem to do.
Though watching the old games and highlights, it seems Staubauch is further back in the shotgun than what we see today.
EDIT: Just read that during his junior season at the Naval Academy they discovered Staubach was color blind which limited what he could do in the Navy or Marines after graduation (I think he wanted to be a pilot but couldn’t after that).
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:46 pm to Ghost of Colby
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That 1954 season Landry was an All-Pro defensive back, had 8 interceptions, while also serving as DC, and also was the team’s punter
Safe to say that record will never be broken
As kid of the 70's in Texas the Cowboys were everything. The winning of the SB in 77 was great but I remember the loses so much more, many of tear flowed because of those Steeler teams. Then there is the stretch between 79 to 82 where it was one heart breaker after another to end the season just short of the SB. I can't remember that last time I've watched more than an hour of one of their games, probably 25+ years, Thanks Jerry.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:24 pm to SPEEDY
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The Landry Shift was a thing of beauty
Really not much to it
Said he used it to mask what the backfield was doing pre-snap.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:56 pm to dallastigers
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After the Naval Academy he spent 4 in the Navy before starting his NFL career, and he retired while still playing well due to concussions and a warning from a doctor about getting another one. Could have had some additional seasons of success added to what he had.
He is the 2nd richest man in NFL history, around fifteen years ago he sold his real estate company for $600+ million.
Fran Tarkenton made only a million on the field, but 3rd on the list. He was big into computers. Started a software company which he sold in 1994, early investor in Google and Apple (has over $100 M in apple stock), He has owned or run 20 companies in his 50 years in the business world.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 4:47 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Even though Landry played in the league, I'm not sure he related all that well with his players.
And Lombardi hung out with the Packers?
Winners don’t let the tail wag the dog. He wasn’t paid to be their wet nurse.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:04 pm to footswitch
For the most part, ex-Packers praise Lombardi. Ex-Cowboys and Landry? Not so much.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:35 pm to Jack Daniel
quote:to be fair, 99% of owners would have fired landry after that season- but it was a different time back then
Jerrah would have fired him in the 63 season
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