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re: Time to pay college football players
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:50 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:50 pm to RollTide1987
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No...I don't.
I mean I can tell you that georgia tech doesn't have a 1.6 billion dollar endowment bc of it's football program.
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:51 pm to RollTide1987
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Set a minimum salary and go from there. I don't see how that would be difficult.
Because there is this crazy thing called title IX
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:52 pm to RollTide1987
And minor leaguers don't get a free college education.
That's ignorant if you don't think university research is a billion dollar industry.
That's ignorant if you don't think university research is a billion dollar industry.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:53 pm to hiltacular
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I mean I can tell you that georgia tech doesn't have a 1.6 billion dollar endowment bc of it's football program.
And I highly doubt the vast majority of that endowment came from research money.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:53 pm to RollTide1987
That argument is less than persuasive.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:54 pm to RollTide1987
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It was a good deal 20 years ago. But not so much anymore.
...yet players freely choose to do it. I wonder why that is.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:54 pm to RollTide1987
Couple of things:
How much was Bob Stoops making while he was in college? The guy has reached the pinnacle of his profession. I would say he's earned that income a little more than a kid who was the best on his high school football team. I'll bet he was making next to nothing. These guys are given the opportunity to earn millions by making it to the nfl or getting a degree. Opportunities that Stoops took advantage of and capitalized on. Pointing out coaches salaries is a silly argument.
If you pay the football team you're going to have to pay every other athlete on campus as long as the NCAA runs college football. It's not going to happen.
How much was Bob Stoops making while he was in college? The guy has reached the pinnacle of his profession. I would say he's earned that income a little more than a kid who was the best on his high school football team. I'll bet he was making next to nothing. These guys are given the opportunity to earn millions by making it to the nfl or getting a degree. Opportunities that Stoops took advantage of and capitalized on. Pointing out coaches salaries is a silly argument.
If you pay the football team you're going to have to pay every other athlete on campus as long as the NCAA runs college football. It's not going to happen.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:55 pm to RollTide1987
College players arent professional football players. Just like a chemical engineering student isnt a chemical engineer. You go to college to learn the skills to give you a chance to have a career, college isnt a career. These players all knew they werent going to be paid when they signed up, so if it isnt their best oopportunity to come out with a career, they should do something else. Just like every other college student
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:56 pm to skullhawk
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If you pay the football team you're going to have to pay every other athlete on campus as long as the NCAA runs college football. It's not going to happen.
Apparently nobody who makes the "pay football players" understands this
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:57 pm to hiltacular
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Until a minor league system happens all we can do is speculate on how big or small it would be... i know one thing, players would make more than they are now in the ncaa system and would be free to negotiate endorsement contracts with companies.
The major draw to college athletics is what the universities bring to the table. This is self evident.
To think that a minor league system could duplicate...or even come close to driving the revenue that the NCAA does is humorously naive.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:57 pm to More beer please
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Apparently nobody who makes the "pay football players" understands this
seriously. it just goes in one ear out the other.
Although the response is usually : womens soccer isn't a billion dollar industry... which doesn't address the title ix imlpications or the ethics behind paying football players but not other athletes.
This whole argument is based around it not being "fair" for the athletes who generate billions for these schools.... yet these same people making the arguments dont address the fairness involved with ONLY paying the football players.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:58 pm to bamafan425
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That's ignorant if you don't think university research is a billion dollar industry.
Okay...I'll play. Combined university research - that's every single school in the United States that conducts some form of research - is $1.5 billion a year. So in that vein, it is a multi-billion dollar industry. But if you can't see the difference between a researcher from Harvard and a college football player from Tennessee, then I don't know what to tell you.
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And minor leaguers don't get a free college education.
What's a college education now? How many 20-somethings who just graduated with a bachelors are actually finding any work out there? You can't work as an office clerk anymore without a college degree. I wanted to be a teacher. I graduated with two degrees and, after failing to find work, I joined the military making $200 more a month than someone just fresh out of high school.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:59 pm to hiltacular
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Although the response is usually : womens soccer isn't a billion dollar industry...
And I completely agree with that reasoning. But, it isnt going to happen
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:00 pm to More beer please
So pay them all.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:01 pm to bamafan425
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This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:02 pm to RollTide1987
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So pay them all.
how much?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:04 pm to LordSaintly
And football game plans are written by coaches. Who does the leg work?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:04 pm to hiltacular
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these same people making the arguments dont address the fairness involved with ONLY paying the football players.
I made this same argument in an earlier thread and the response was basically "it's fair because football brings in more money than soccer".
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:05 pm to RollTide1987
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So pay them all.
Besides the fact that universities couldnt afford to pay EVERY single athlete. You would have to pay them all equally and that is just asinine
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:05 pm to moneyg
Or how about this? Title IX is indeed an impediment to paying football players due to many of these colleges getting public funding. Why not have the NCAA remove the pay-for-play penalties from their rule books, basically completely throw the word "amateur" out of their lexicon, and then allow PRIVATE citizens to pay the salaries. You can't tell a private citizen what he can and can't do with his money, so who cares if no salary goes to a woman's soccer player?
The boosters, and not the university, are the ones paying the players anyway.
The boosters, and not the university, are the ones paying the players anyway.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 3:07 pm
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