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re: Tiger Woods involved in serious one car crash; shatters ankle, suffers two leg fractures

Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
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also can't catch Tiger's 82 wins on the PGA Tour or his 41 wins on the European tour. Tiger is 3rd all-time in wins on the European tour despite only competing in 121 events. Tiger also has the lowest single season scoring average in PGA history, the lowest career scoring average, record for most consecutive cuts made (142), and the career record for winning % on tour (22.8%). Those are also just facts

Tiger would trade all of that for 19 majors. The greats will always be measured by what they did in the majors and Jack finished top 2 37 times and won 18. Tiger was after the record and became the second greatest golfer to ever live.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:57 pm to
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Nothing screams a good comparison like when one guy is beating up on world class athletes, and the other is beating up on insurance salesmen.


Your lack of pro golf knowledge is shining through. Would you call Arnie, Jack, & Lee insurance salesmen?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
I see we are in the lebron/Jordan conversation yet again.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 2:47 pm to
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Your lack of pro golf knowledge is shining through. Would you call Arnie, Jack, & Lee insurance salesmen?

I don’t think anyone is calling those guys ins salesmen.

But to not recognize that all best world players regularly didn’t come to Augusta is ridiculous. The first European to win it was in 1980 when Seve did.

At any particular major Jack was playing about half of the best players in the world each time.

In Augusta and the US Open he faced the the US best players and a sprinkling of Euros and Gary Player.

At the British it was the best Euros with a sprinkling of US guys and Gary Player.

The PGA was held the week after the British thru the sixties making it almost impossible for non US players to make both as well and it wasnt until the 80s after players complained that they stopped inviting club pros and instead invited more of the actual best players in the world.

This is all backed up by looking at the top ten of all these tourneys during Jack’s prime

Tiger played the top 100 players in the world every single major he ever played.

Jack did not.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9593 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 2:56 pm to
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At the British it was the best Euros with a sprinkling of US guys and Gary Player.


Assuming this is true, how many British Opens did the Europeans win from 1961-1985 (roughly Jack Nicklaus's prime)?

I'll wait for your answer. It might surprise you.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5364 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:10 pm to
I never mentioned who wins. On purpose. The top 5-8 guys went everywhere. That’s why Player is set aside.

Now Go find the TOP TEN finishers of every major during Jack’s prime and post it.

YOU will be surprised.

I’ve looked it all up before. I posted that same post last year on the golf board.

I stand by my statement.
Tiger played the top 100 players in the world every single major he ever played.
Jack did not.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:17 pm to
Look to be fair I don’t like to argue who was better because I don’t think you can make one argument that overwhelmingly favors Tiger or Jack.

This is just one that I feel favors Tiger that I feel most people don’t realize.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30072 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:18 pm to
Winning percentage should be the ultimate deciding factor, not majors.

Tiger has a career winning percentage of over 22%, which includes all of the tournaments he tried to play injured.

Jack has a career winning percentage of 12. If you remove his starts after age 45, the percentage goes up to 16.

Also, Tiger consistently played in only the most difficult tournaments to win, including the majors and the WGC events. Those fields truly had the best players in the world.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:36 pm to
18majors and 19 2nd place finishes....

When it mattered most Jack stepped up......

Golf is hard.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12810 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:48 pm to
Tiger is easily the GOAT. If you need any more proof, Peej disagrees with my statement.
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
7954 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:56 pm to
Tiger’s entire career consists of him stepping up when it matters.

That’s why he won 3 consecutive U.S. amateurs after being down a ton. That’s why he won 14 majors in 11 years. That’s why he came back after a 10 year major drought, scandal and 4 back surgeries and won the masters against quite possibly the most start studded leader board ever.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Tiger’s entire career consists of him stepping up when it matters.







Do you count the off course things that happened???? Did I EVER say Tiger wasnt good???? NO... Have I ever said he choked???? NO... Tiger Woods has provieded me with more magical momments than anyone named Jordan....

In a indivitual sport??? He is the best EVER for about 8 years.... Nothing will come close....

But overall???? Jack ALL DAY....
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16842 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:35 pm to
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I don’t think anyone is calling those guys ins salesmen.


Did you read nugget's post?
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16842 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:37 pm to
How many tournaments did Jack play? How many tournaments has Tiger played?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:56 pm to
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lsufball19

This guy


During Jack's prime there was Boros, Casper, Irwin, and Trevino as multiple US Open winners. During Tiger's prime - there was Goosen.

During Jack's prime there was Floyd, Nelson, Player, Stockton, and Trevino as multiple PGA winners. During Tigers prime - there was Singh.

During Jack's prime there was Balesteros, Palmer, Player, Thomson, Trevino, and Watson as multiple Open winners. During Tiger's prime, there was Els and Herrington.

During Jack's prime there was Ballesteros, Palmer, and Player as multiple Masters winners. During Tiger's prime, there was Olazabal, Mickelson, and Watson.

When you break it down, Jack faced the same stiff competition every major. Tiger, not so much. And Jack walked away with 18 majors, Tiger 15.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:09 pm to
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League Champs


I regret that I have but one upvote to give.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25158 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:16 pm to
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When you break it down, Jack faced the same stiff competition every major. Tiger, not so much.


I think you kinda made his point. There was Jack and a handful of guys that won most of the majors, and in the new age with equipment that allows lesser players to compete consistently, there’s a whole lot more folks that have a chance to win on a week to week basis

I said earlier in this thread, and I’ve heard other folks say the same, the golfer hurt most by equipment advances is Tiger, because it rewards folks who aren’t consistently great ball strikers
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16842 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:27 pm to
Using your logic, wouldn't Tiger also benefit by also hitting it longer, straighter, & more accurately?
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25158 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:41 pm to
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Using your logic, wouldn't Tiger also benefit by also hitting it longer, straighter, & more accurately?


Well obviously yes, but not as much as it helps folks who don’t hit it as well as him.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34597 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:55 pm to
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When I read Jack and Barbara Nicklaus tweet, it convinced me that one or both of them cut Tiger’s brake line. Prove me wrong. Or they paid Jeff Galooley to cut it. Can’t wait for the movie.



Jesus Christ! You can't be this dumb.

Haven't chimed in on the topic, prayers for a full recovery for Tiger. This probably ends his PGA days but I can see him on the Champions Tour in a couple of years. If anyone can recover from this, it's Eldrick.

He had an angel on his shoulder. He's lucky/blessed to be alive.
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