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re: Thoughts on Intentional Walks in Little League

Posted on 8/11/22 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 12:43 pm to
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BS, no 8 year old is hitting a ball 240 dead center.




I would agree.
I literally just went to a home run derby for 7, 8, 9, and 10 years olds. the 9/10 year olds had the fence at 186. 5 of the 20 something kids there hit homers, and i guarantee none of them went 30+ feet over the fence.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 1:51 pm to
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lots of good teams. It easier in 8U than 9/10U because you cant get leads and there is no stealing. rolling two in 8u is common for the good teams



no its not common it happens but its not common. My middle kid is 10 and played against all the better 8u teams in state, its not common.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 1:54 pm to
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I would agree.
I literally just went to a home run derby for 7, 8, 9, and 10 years olds. the 9/10 year olds had the fence at 186. 5 of the 20 something kids there hit homers, and i guarantee none of them went 30+ feet over the fence.


yea there are not many 8u kids hitting it 240 in the whole country. there were less than 25 kids in all of 9u last year across the state that could really put it out of a 185' 8' fence field. We played all the high level teams in the state, outside of swamp donkeys, and there are very few.

just like everyone would say such and suck is pitching 60+ and when i would put my gun on them....it would be 53-54. Thats still bringing it, but a far cry from hitting 60(there were like 5 kids in whole state who hit 60 in 9u legit)
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 1:58 pm to
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no its not common it happens but its not common. My middle kid is 10 and played against all the better 8u teams in state, its not common.



in the upper levels, absolutely. My sons 8U team rolled multiple every weekend. At 9, unless you have some absolutely sloth running the bags, the only way you roll 2 is ss taking it himself. 10u is pretty much the same
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:04 pm to
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in the upper levels, absolutely. My sons 8U team rolled multiple every weekend. At 9, unless you have some absolutely sloth running the bags, the only way you roll 2 is ss taking it himself. 10u is pretty much the same


well i can tell you its not common even at the top levels. only 2 teams in north LA i seen do it was swamp donkeys and WM bulldogs.

atleast a 4-6-3 or 6-4-3 DP
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:07 pm to
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well i can tell you its not common even at the top levels. only 2 teams in north LA i seen do it was swamp donkeys and WM bulldogs.

atleast a 4-6-3 or 6-4-3 DP


I know both of those teams well and yes it is common. I saw several 6-4-3 4-6-3, even 5-4-3.
Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 6:52 pm to
My boy hasnt seen a strike since coach pitch baw
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:38 pm to
11-12 year olds. I’ve done it in a championship game with a batter that had already hit 2 HRs against us. It loaded the bases and got the next guy out on a force. But we still lost by 1. It’s not 10-11, it’s 11-12 unless it’s changed in the last 10years
Posted by Liberator
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Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:12 am to
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Had a friend who was at one of the Jefferson Parish little league games a few weeks ago and said one kid got intentionally walked every time he came to the plate.


EVERY time?

Yeah, that's not right. Hear ya. It's not the Olympics.

Cowardly skipper on the other team... and pitcher. Let 'em play.

(Now I'll take this time to recall and boast of the one time I was intentionally passed when I wuz a LL Kang. )

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28631 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:13 am to
I think by 12 years old in a high level competition like you described, and the situation with an open base and a good hitter coming up, perfectly ok with an intentional walk. But i still think the pitcher has to throw 4 balls. None of this walking without throwing a pitch. Maybe he throws it bad and the runner on 2nd can get to 3rd.

The intentional walking of coaches pitch is what i have a major problem with, no matter the situation.
I'd be fine with it at 9/10 in big games, even though its mostly a walk fest at that age anyway.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:16 am to
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11-12 year olds. I’ve done it in a championship game with a batter that had already hit 2 HRs against us.


But...did he smack those 2 dingers against *you*?

quote:

It loaded the bases and got the next guy out on a force. But we still lost by 1.

It’s not 10-11, it’s 11-12 unless it’s changed in the last 10years


Man...these LL Mgrs are taking the game that seriously during the last 10 years or so? (I played ball in the century)

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:17 am to
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It's 8U. those kids could give two shits about the correct baseball move. They just want to play baseball


That’s dumb and kids want coaches to help them win.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:18 am to
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it is common. I saw several 6-4-3 4-6-3, even 5-4-3


Around the horn DPs? In LL? Wow. Nice.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:21 am to
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BS, no 8 year old is hitting a ball 240 dead center.


Yeah -- that's an unreal distance for an 8-year old. Is the kid roiding up already?

Then again...Maybe ALL the baseballs from MLB-LL are wrapped way too tight and have a golfball center.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:26 pm to
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I could give it a pass for it being regionals

The best I would do is give the pitcher instruction to 'don't give him a good pitch to hit."

I would not support awarding first base w/o making the pitches. Tell the pitcher to 'keep it low and inside" or whatever is perceived to be the hitter's worst area to hit. If he walks, so be it - if he gets a hit, hopefully it will be a dinker and not a home run. Keep it competitive on the field - let the kids do what they do best.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28631 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:29 pm to
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That’s dumb and kids want coaches to help them win.



They are 8. They just want to bat.
Ask 100 8 year olds, “would you rather hit 3 home runs and your team loses, or you get out three times and your team wins?”
Over 95% will say 3 home runs.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
14189 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:59 pm to
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You can tell your pitcher to not give him anything to hit
sparky Lyle talked about this. It's basically shifting the blame to the pitcher. Wtf does it mean anyway? Throw it 4 feet off the plate? Either let the guy try and get him out or put him on.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 4:25 pm to
It’s a part of the game. Teach kids how to win the game.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
172163 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 4:34 pm to
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Ask 100 8 year olds


Kids want to win. Prioritizing selfishness is not the issue at hand.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:05 pm to
Whatever the rule is. If rule then I definitely support over trying to pitch around a batter at 12 years old on a miniature field.
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