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re: This year marks 30 years since the most dominant college football team of all-time...

Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Programs rise and fall all the time.

No one in the old Big 8 was nearly as formidable against Nebraska as when Barry Switzer was at OU.

Osborne was collectively 71-3-1 against “top ten” Kansas, Colorado, and Kansas State. He was 5-12 against Switzer teams that were always competing on the national scene.

Nebraska and Oklahoma used to beat the rest of the Big 8 so badly so frequently that Switzer’s phrase “Hang half a hundred on ‘em” became well known.

By 1995, Switzer was long gone and even Bill McCartney (responsible for the 3 losses in the 71-3-1 record against Kansas, Kansas, and Colorado record) had left.

There was no elite team in the Big 8 to challenge Nebraska anymore, so they beat the shite out of all seven conference opponents instead of just six.

OOC, 1995 Nebraska’s schedule was a joke. No one with more than six wins and mighty Pacific even folded the program after the season.

Several of Osborne’s previous teams lost to some really good Alabama, Penn State, Washington, and UCLA teams. Teams that competed for and won national titles.

No one like that on the 1995 schedule.

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Oklahoma may have been in a slump but Nebraska defeated a 10-1 and Top 3 ranked Miami team, in the Orange Bowl, to win the national title just the year before.

But 24-17, not 62-24. And Miami easily could have won the game. Nebraska had to bleed for it.

And that was a Nebraska team with a better OL and FB (Corey Schlesinger, who scored two touchdowns) than the 1995 team had.

When you have to play two NFL Hall of Famers on D and a coaching staff that is familiar with you, style points are harder to generate. The 1992-1993 FSU D that beat Nebraska had Derrick Brooks, who is also in the NFL Hall of Fame. They also had Mickey Andrews,

So Nebraska goes from playing three HOF defensive players (and some great defensive minds that faced them often) in bowl games from 1992-1994 to no-name guys on a team that only cared about offense and the passing game.

Makes it a little easier to score; especially for a run-oriented team.

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You are also ignoring the fact that Tom Osborne changed his recruiting methodology in the early-90s to be able to compete with the Florida States and Miamis of the college football world. His teams in the mid-90s were faster than those he fielded in the 80s as a result.

But were they really?

Could Tommie Frazier, Lawrence Phillips, and any of the no-name receivers in 1995 outrun Turner Gill, Mike Rozier, and Irving Fryar from the early ‘80s teams?

What speed demons on D did the 1995 team have that were so much better than previous years? Neil Smith, Broderick Thomas, Trev Alberts. Nebraska had plenty of All-Americans on D.

Osborne’s kryptonite wasn’t teams throwing it all over the field and blowing up the scoreboard. That’s a myth. Rarely did opponents score a ton on him in the ‘70s and ‘80s. It was teams with All-Americans and NFL guys on defense that were the most problematic.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:22 pm to
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I have to imagine that's how 1/9/12 must've felt.


You just had to fricking bring that up.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:31 pm to
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I guess in 1994 , you had to be the greatest team of all-time to beat the big red voting machines.


The Rose Bowl not joining the Bowl Coalition so they could preserve their precious Big-10/Pac-10 alliance is to be blamed for Penn State not getting a shot at Nebraska.
Posted by winkchance
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:34 pm to
LSU was 2019.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:51 pm to
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Globetrotter747



None of your diatribe has anything to do with 1995 Nebraska. No one cares what Oklahoma and Barry Switzer did to Nebraska in the 1980s. It is irrelevant to the conversation. It also ignores the fact that Nebraska and Oklahoma split the series evenly that decade - as one would expect in a rivalry where both teams were consistently ranked inside the Top 10 when they played each other.

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But 24-17, not 62-24. And Miami easily could have won the game. Nebraska had to bleed for it.



Probably because Tommie Frazier was playing in his first game since the end of September due to issues with blood clots. He was also doing it against the nation's top defense that was anchored by Warren Sapp and Ray Lewis.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:59 pm to
laughs in 2019 LSU Tigers
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69810 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:29 pm to
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laughs in 2019 LSU Tigers



The 2019 LSU Tigers had multiple games that were decided by a touchdown or less. The 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers had none.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:31 pm to
This is correct
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:41 pm to
05 Texas was legit
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:58 pm to
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the OL finished the season without a single holding penalty called against them


Lmao…fricking impossible, some solid ref crews they had!
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:01 pm to
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fricking impossible


And yet it happened.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:38 pm to
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The Rose Bowl not joining the Bowl Coalition so they could preserve their precious Big-10/Pac-10 alliance is to be blamed for Penn State not getting a shot at Nebraska.


94 Nebraska wasn't 95 Nebraska and it should've been Nebraska not being able to get a shot at Penn State, not the other way around...but the writers were so in the bag for Osborne they leapfrogged PSU in the Polls before the Bowls to ensure if both won, Nebraska would get the post-bowl rubber-stamp.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted by ChefLSU
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:47 pm to
only 3 top 10 teams in the regular season. 2019 LSU pulled that off by week 5
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5321 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:35 pm to
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None of your diatribe has anything to do with 1995 Nebraska. No one cares what Oklahoma and Barry Switzer did to Nebraska in the 1980s. It is irrelevant to the conversation.

Osborne’s record vs. Switzer/McCartney: 12-15-1

Osborne’s record vs. all else Big 8: 137-9.

What is the only Big 8 season in which Osborne faced neither Switzer nor McCartney? 1995.

I just can’t imagine how I think that the only two coaches to challenge Osborne in the Big 8 and winning national titles of their own being out of the picture made it easier for Nebraska to dominate the conference.

I just can’t imagine how not playing an OOC opponent with more than six wins (including one making plans to disband the program) didn’t make life easier for Osborne than when he was playing national title contenders in Legion Field and Beaver Stadium.

And I just can’t imagine how I think that going from playing five NFL Hall of Famers on D in bowl games from 1987-1994 (Deion Sanders, Cortez Kennedy, Derrick Brooks, Warren Sapp, Ray Lewis) to no one higher than a third rounder in 1995 might have made it easier to score a lot of style points.

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94 Nebraska wasn't 95 Nebraska

On what basis do you say this?

The 1994 team had four senior starters on the OL, including the Outland winner. It had a Pro Bowl FB. It had Frazier / Berringer and Phillips. It had players like Barron Miles, Troy Dumas, and Donta Jones.

They played a much better regular season opponent than anyone on the 1995 schedule and a bowl opponent that wouldn’t have given up 62 pts. to the 49ers.

I’m not saying the 1994 team was better, but I also don’t think people look too deep into the actual players who were out on the field and what competition they faced.

1995 Nebraska and all of its opponents combined put just two players in the first round the following spring. I don’t think it’s possible to have/play so little elite talent today or in recent years. 2019 LSU had/faced 18 first round picks from the 2020 draft alone.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69810 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:44 pm to
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Osborne’s record vs. Switzer/McCartney: 12-15-1



Dude...this does not matter in the context of 1995. I don't know why you are bringing this up. Yes, Osborne struggled to win the big game. That was a knock on him for years. However, in his last five seasons he was finally able to get over the hump and go on a run that remains one of the most dominant in college football history. Did the absence of Switzer have something to do with that? Probably. But that still doesn't take away from the fact that 1995 Nebraska was the most dominant college football team in the history of the sport.


This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:53 pm to
And played a real schedule.
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
546 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:44 pm to
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It’s a shame this truthful comment has so many downvotes. Maybe the perception of their dominance has withered somewhat w the passage of time, I saw them in person beat Ohio State 63-14. It was unreal. Penn State was stacked w pros and their offense ran at peak efficiency. One of the top 5 most dominant teams I’ve seen in my lifetime.


One poster said PSU got lucky against Indiana - PSUhad a 21 point lead with a minute left. I.U scores on backups, recovers the onside kick, and scores on a Hail Mary against backups to make the score respectable.

PSU’s 1st quarter miscues put them in a 21-0 hole against Illinois on the road, against the number 1 defense in the country.

PSU had 3 90 yard, 12 plus play drives to pull out the win. PSU’s offense dissected Illinois with surgical precision for 3 quarters.

The 1994 OSU team was LOADED with under classmen who would play huge roles on their 1995 and 1996 teams (Eddie George, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, Orlando Pace, just to name a few)

Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5321 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:54 pm to
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However, in his last five seasons he was finally able to get over the hump and go on a run that remains one of the most dominant in college football history.

Osborne’s tenure would have been a lot more dominant if all of his teams could have played the 1995 team’s opponents.

Heck, the 1996 team the next year would have at least faced FSU for the national title if they hadn’t had to play a conference championship game against Texas. Didn’t have to worry about that in the Big 8.

Never know when an inspired opponent might have your number. Easier to run the table on 12 teams than 15-16.

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Did the absence of Switzer have something to do with that? Probably.

There’s no probably to it. Wishbone era OU was no joke. Many all-time greats on those teams.
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But that still doesn't take away from the fact that 1995 Nebraska was the most dominant college football team in the history of the sport.

It takes away from it if you value the competition teams play against, which I do.
Posted by Coach72
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2009
1681 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:24 pm to
If they make the FG in 1993 versus Charlie Ward's Seminoles, they win 4 Natty's in a 5 year span...
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
546 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:18 pm to
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It takes away from it if you value the competition teams play against, which I do.


1995 Nebraska completely obliterated the best of the SEC in their bowl game. They did it again in 1997.
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