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re: This SB loss did NOTHING to affect Manning's legacy in a negative way
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:36 pm to offshoretrash
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:36 pm to offshoretrash
quote:Verbatim, a point was made that if your Super Bowl stats are worse than your regular season you are a choker. Well Walter Payton's are way worse. So he must be a choker by those guidelines. Rather simple really
Are you really this stupid?
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:37 pm to lsupride87
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Doesnt matter, did you see how much worse he did compared to his regular season numbers? Or do we need to move those goal posts again?
Because QB and RB are equally important positions.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:37 pm to ballscaster
This thread can be summed up pretty easily - would you rather be Manning on Sunday morning or Monday morning?
Without a doubt, Manning was looked at more favorably Sunday morning, hence the loss negatively affected his legacy.
Without a doubt, Manning was looked at more favorably Sunday morning, hence the loss negatively affected his legacy.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:37 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:Then nothing i am saying is referring to you. Im referring to the people claiming Peyton is a choker
For that matter, I never claimed he "choked" this one since it was very clearly a team wide disaster but he certainly wasn't part of the solution.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:38 pm to lsupride87
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They wont answer, just like they wont answer what i posted about walter payton. They want to judge only certain players on these guideline, because they realize how ridiculous it is when applied to others
I'll answer. Manning has had the same statistical fall of for his ENTIRE CAREER in the playoffs. We have a large sample size on him.
Yes. This is an indication of how GREAT a regular season QB he is. And, like it or not, he falls of from HIS OWN normal a LOT come postseason time.
His career TD-INT ratio is 2.25 to 1. Postseason 1.55 to 1
He has become a turnover machine postseason in comparison to his regular seasons. AND, his TD output rate shrunk significantly also.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:39 pm to RollTide1987
Seattle scored a touchdown on special teams, defense, and a few on offense to go along with their safety/field goal points.
They dominated every phase of the game and were outright better than the Broncos in every way imaginable.
How anyone can say that falls solely on Peyton and damages his legacy is fricking astounding to me.
They dominated every phase of the game and were outright better than the Broncos in every way imaginable.
How anyone can say that falls solely on Peyton and damages his legacy is fricking astounding to me.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:40 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:Has anyone said that?
How anyone can say that falls solely on Peyton
quote:It sure as hell doesn't help his legacy.
and damages his legacy is fricking astounding to me.
Everyone has provided their argument over and over again. If you read the arguments and still can;t understand, well then, I can't help you.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:41 pm to lsupride87
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a point was made that if your Super Bowl stats are worse than your regular season you are a choker
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT RUNNING BACKS! I believe we are comparing QBs here. That's why I ask where you really that stupid to compare a QB to a running back who depends on play calling to get the ball not hiked to him every play. You are comparing apples to oranges here.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:42 pm to boom roasted
Anyone disagreeing with the OP (and there was a ton on the first page alone) is saying that Peyton's legacy took a hit last night.
Which is complete, reactionary bullshite.
Which is complete, reactionary bullshite.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:43 pm to boom roasted
quote:
Has anyone said that?
Nope. Not a single person. Though the defense for Denver sure did their damnedest to keep the Broncos in the game. When it was 29-0 in the 3rd quarter, less than half of those points (13) could be directly attributed to the defense.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:43 pm to SettleDown
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Um. You need to learn Google.
??? But Jerry Rice stats drop off in the playoffs worse than Peyton's do
quote:
I'm talking about choking. Apparently, while he aint very good, Sanchez brings about the same ability in the playoffs that he brings normally.
By the definition of playoff performance vs regular season performance Mark Sanchez is the greatest EVER. FACT.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:44 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:Disagree. It's further evidence that Peyton cannot get it done in the playoffs.
Which is complete, reactionary bullshite.
An individual's legacy is different to each and every person. It's not math. There are no final and correct answers.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:44 pm to boom roasted
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It's further evidence that Peyton cannot get it done in the playoffs.
He played in the god damn super bowl last night.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:46 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:And he played wonderfully.
He played in the god damn super bowl last night.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:46 pm to boom roasted
It's funny how Peyton fans have always blamed Brady for NE's SB losses. Lots of irony since last night.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:47 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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But Jerry Rice stats drop off in the playoffs worse than Peyton's do
Who gives a shite Rice is not a QB? This is a stupid argument.
quote:
Mark Sanchez is the greatest EVER. FACT.
So Mark is a HOF QB? Again you are comparing PM with average QBs in the regular season. compare him to all time great QBs regular season and playoffs and see what you come up with.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:47 pm to boom roasted
You said he couldn't get it done in the playoffs, which is fricking ridiculous by any standard.
People who can't get it done in the playoffs don't make it to 3 super bowls.
People who can't get it done in the playoffs don't make it to 3 super bowls.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:48 pm to NawlinsTiger9
What you just said right there is an opinion.
Peyton's legacy to me is: Absolutely outstanding in the regular season, but seems to consistently come up short in the postseason.
Peyton's legacy to me is: Absolutely outstanding in the regular season, but seems to consistently come up short in the postseason.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:49 pm to boom roasted
Who is better in your opinion?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:49 pm to boom roasted
quote:
Disagree. It's further evidence that Peyton cannot get it done in the playoffs.
An individual's legacy is different to each and every person. It's not math. There are no final and correct answers.
aka I will believe whatever I want, what actually happens on the field doesn't matter
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