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re: This SB loss did NOTHING to affect Manning's legacy in a negative way
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:51 pm to boom roasted
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:51 pm to boom roasted
quote:He has made it to three super bowls while winning one you absolute moron. He has gotten a lot of crap done in the playoffs apparently
but seems to consistently come up short in the postseason.
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:51 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:Am I supposed to guess who you mean?
Who is better in your opinion?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:52 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:If that's what you take that to mean, roll with it, bud.
aka I will believe whatever I want, what actually happens on the field doesn't matter
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:52 pm to lsupride87
quote:Taking this a bit personally, are we?
you absolute moron
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:53 pm to offshoretrash
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But Jerry Rice stats drop off in the playoffs worse than Peyton's do
And also comes through on the biggest stage.
Super Bowl XXIII: 11 receptions, 215 yards, 1 touchdown
Super Bowl XXIV: 7 receptions, 148 yards, 3 touchdowns
Super Bowl XXIX: 10 receptions, 149 yards, 3 touchdowns
That, along with his regular season stats, is why Rice is the GOAT at his position.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:54 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Show how you arrive at that. Go.
??? But Jerry Rice stats drop off in the playoffs worse than Peyton's do
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By the definition of playoff performance vs regular season performance Mark Sanchez is the greatest EVER. FACT.
I'm talking about choking. Manning falls off HUGE. Not even debatable. That some other guy managed to play over his head simply magnifies the significance of the fact that over a damned long time and over a large sample size, Manning has played UNDER his head.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:54 pm to boom roasted
quote:Yes i am. I am disappointed and hurt that fellow humans, creatures i share the same genetic code as, can be this simple minded. I weep for the future
Taking this a bit personally, are we?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:57 pm to lsupride87
quote:Me too. I weep for our future if people such as yourself resort to insulting your fellow human beings for having a different opinion than yourself.
I weep for the future
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:58 pm to offshoretrash
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Who gives a shite Rice is not a QB? This is a stupid argument.
So playoff stats matter for the QB and no one else on the team? Yes or No?
quote:
So Mark is a HOF QB? Again you are comparing PM with average QBs in the regular season. compare him to all time great QBs regular season and playoffs and see what you come up with.
So are Montana, Brady etc 5x MVPs 7x 1st team All Pros? Again why you are comparing average QBs to a 5x MVP 7x 1st team All Pro?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:59 pm to boom roasted
quote:Well we can weep together
Me too. I weep for our future if people such as yourself resort to insulting your fellow human beings for having a different opinion than yourself.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:00 pm to VerlanderBEAST
You can rationalize all you want but the simple fact is, almost without exception, for a damned long career.........Manning has RELIABLY fallen off in the post season.
Almost anyone can fall off or step up once. That's called an anomaly. Do it for more than 15 years and it's who you are.
Almost anyone can fall off or step up once. That's called an anomaly. Do it for more than 15 years and it's who you are.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:02 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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So playoff stats matter for the QB and no one else on the team? Yes or No?
It does when the title of the fricking thread is:
This SB loss did NOTHING to affect Manning's legacy in a negative way
I believe we are comparing QB not WR or running backs.
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o are Montana, Brady etc 5x MVPs 7x 1st team All Pros? Again why you are comparing average QBs to a 5x MVP 7x 1st team All Pro?
What the frick are you talking about? I haven't compared Manning with no one but the all time greats. That's what we are discussing here who is the greatest QB, are we not?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:05 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Well we can weep together
Dealing with this guy yes we can.
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VerlanderBEAST
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:14 pm to offshoretrash
quote:Does it matter for all positions? Yes or No?
I believe we are comparing QB not WR or running backs.
quote:You are saying that you can't compare the postseason stats of Sanchez because he isn't close in regular season achievement right?
What the frick are you talking about? I haven't compared Manning with no one but the all time greats. That's what we are discussing here who is the greatest QB, are we not?
Well Montana and Brady aren't close in regular season achievement to Peyton so by the same token we shouldn't be comparing them.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:17 pm to offshoretrash
There seem to be two different arguments floating around.
1) Comparing Manning's stats to some other great's (but at a different position) stats. That's just silly and already been covered by myself and others so no need to rehash.
2) The question of Manning's legacy. This game has value because the debate isn't whether Manning is a great, Hall of Fame QB. He is and the Super Bowl didn't change it. The "real" debate is whether Manning is the best QB to ever play. When the bar is that high, his performance in the Super Bowl is fair game to critique.
IMHO, the team wide meltdown actually works in Manning's favor on that score because nobody can play the "Well, if only Peyton played a little better..." game. However, nobody can say "If only everybody else on the Broncos matched Manning's play..." either and that counts as a ding in the "greatest ever" argument, like it or not.
1) Comparing Manning's stats to some other great's (but at a different position) stats. That's just silly and already been covered by myself and others so no need to rehash.
2) The question of Manning's legacy. This game has value because the debate isn't whether Manning is a great, Hall of Fame QB. He is and the Super Bowl didn't change it. The "real" debate is whether Manning is the best QB to ever play. When the bar is that high, his performance in the Super Bowl is fair game to critique.
IMHO, the team wide meltdown actually works in Manning's favor on that score because nobody can play the "Well, if only Peyton played a little better..." game. However, nobody can say "If only everybody else on the Broncos matched Manning's play..." either and that counts as a ding in the "greatest ever" argument, like it or not.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:20 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:Do you think I'm wrong?
If you disagree with him, you're wrong. There's no point in arguing with it.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:25 pm to offshoretrash
quote:I can't imagine what this season did for Aaron Rodgers' legacy then. He probably won't even be in the league next year.
No winning it would have enhanced it. Losing it tarnished his legacy especially doing it in this fashion. You're saying that laying an egg in this SB did nothing for his ranking in the all time ranking? You are a fool if you believe this.
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At this point I would put Troy Aikman in front of PM.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:25 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Well Montana and Brady aren't close in regular season achievement to Peyton so by the same token we shouldn't be comparing them.
That is where you are wrong.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:27 pm to boom roasted
quote:fixed
He's saying Peyton could have thrown 12 INTs and 0 TDs and his legacy would not have been tarnished. It can only go up, never down, because it's logic.
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