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re: This is 2025, and that was the Crystal clear definition of Targeting

Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:46 pm to
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What does the rule state because there was nothing with the crown and it was just a face on tackle


the rule says defenseless players can’t have any contact to head or neck area

even Matt Austin confirmed that. refs need to explain how that didn’t meet the rule because it did
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Glovebox
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2003
154 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:46 pm to
This type of non-call makes me even madder that Devin White had to miss a half of Bama game on a phantom targeting call.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2889 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:47 pm to
Textbook is head up to the middle of the body. No one teached helmet to helmet
Posted by ValleyTNTIGER
wherever i go that's where i am
Member since Sep 2010
716 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:47 pm to
Don’t know what we are missing but that met every definition I have seen or heard discussed. Not the only questionable calls by this crew
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Helmet to helmet on a defenseless player


This is the element people are overlooking, IMO
Posted by LCrox
Alabama (the smart area)
Member since Sep 2019
548 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:49 pm to
Agreed. Criminal.

Helmet to helmet on a defenseless player
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Serves Texas right…hits goal post.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6211 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:49 pm to
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No it wasn't. Their heads met. At full speed, while making a break on the ball, its impossible to avoid head contact. It was actually textbook, he kept his head up.





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The NCAA targeting rule is a player safety rule in college football that aims to reduce the risk of serious injury. It defines targeting as:
Forcible contact with an opponent that goes beyond a legal tackle or block
Initiating contact with a defenseless opponent above the shoulders
Leading with the crown of the helmet
Forcibly hitting a defenseless player in the head or neck with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow, or shoulder



It was helmet to helmet contact, and he lead with his helmet. Clear as day.

Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2311 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:51 pm to
The NCAA defines a defenseless player as follows:

A player attempting to catch a forward or backward pass, or a player who has completed the catch but hasn't had ample time to protect themselves or hasn't clearly become the ball carrier yet

Officials look to see:

If the player leads with their helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact the head or neck area of an opposing player.

If those two things are there, it's targeting.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132617 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:52 pm to
I hope ASU wins just to frick over the corrupt NCAA.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:52 pm to
Yep, that seems cut and dry to me
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:52 pm to
Does it matter that the ball was tipped at los because I remember a PI call being taken off the board one year when lsu was playing auburn
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1553 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:55 pm to
No
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7932 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 4:00 pm to
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Leading with the crown of the helmet


Which he did not do.
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2743 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 4:20 pm to
Did he do this?

quote:

Forcibly hitting a defenseless player in the head or neck with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow, or shoulder
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 4:34 pm to
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he kept his head up.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57353 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

The rule is written horribly but now it’s just ambiguous what it actually is and more get overturned/not called


Which is why they won’t change it. The leeway to get the desired (by the powers that be) outcome is there.

I’m not one of those “it’s all fixed” guys, but calls like that really leave you scratching your head.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213221 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 4:42 pm to
Found the Texas fan.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
2981 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:01 pm to
It's 2025 and refs are still stupid.
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