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re: This college football season proves we need at least 6 in the playoffs

Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:54 am to
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13155 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:54 am to
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The FCS has a big playoff every year.


The FCS also has one of the least interesting regular seasons in all of sports.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:54 am to
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6 teams are definitely deserving of a shot at a national championship this year, 2 teams are gonna get left out and it really is a travesty.



Best Method to determine national champions

Six Team Playoff with no automatic bids

Every Power 5 conference champion with one or fewer losses will get a shot. Also, there's rarely been a year where a team ranked outside the top 6 had a case for being the best team in the country.

Fairest Method to determine national champions

Eight Team Playoff with five Power 5 conference champions, best G5 conference champion, and two at-large bids

Every Power 5 conference champion gets a shot, a top team from a smaller conference gets a shot and a really good
Power 5 team that just had one hiccup during the regular season i.e. 2015 Ohio State gets an opportunity to play for it all as well.
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5703 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:56 am to
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You lost me at UCF



I am far from a fan of UCF but almost all computer ratings will have them top 7 after this Week so you can take that up with them I guess.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:56 am to
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The FCS also has one of the least interesting regular seasons in all of sports.


Being "uninteresting" doesn't get you out of class.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13155 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:57 am to
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Fairest Method to determine national champions

Eight Team Playoff with five Power 5 conference champions, best G5 conference champion, and two at-large bids



Fairest in what way? Is it fair to Alabama to possibly have to play UGA again? Was it fair to LSU to have to play Bama again in 2011?

I don't think it's fair to make the original outcomes of contests meaningless.

Which a playoff with more than 4 teams would do every single year. At least under the current system it's rare that we get a rematch.
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 12:59 am
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5703 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:59 am to
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Eight Team Playoff with five Power 5 conference champions, best G5 conference champion, and two at-large bids 


I've started advocating for this the last few days. If you look at every season since playoffs started there is almost always a Group of 5 team that is highly thought of.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20125 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 1:26 am to
People need to get over this shite. Every season is not created equal. Certain teams will always have easier paths in a given year. There is no equalizing of this. More teams in a playoff is not better

College basketball is a great example. More teams does not always mean the best or most deserving team wins
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 1:31 am
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
3574 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 1:55 am to
It's 8. It always has been 8.

5 Conference Champions
3 At-Large.
No more, no less. Too many logical reasons for it.
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5703 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:00 am to
Eight Team Playoff with five Power 5 conference champions, best G5 conference champion, and two at-large bids


2014
(#20 Boise State 10-2) at #1 Alabama 12-1
#5 Baylor* 11-1 at #4 Ohio State 12-1
#6 TCU 11-1 at #3 Florida State 13-0
#7 Mississippi State* 10-2 at #2 Oregon 12-1

Left Out
#8 Michigan State 10-2

2015
(#18 Houston 12-1) at #1 Clemson 13-0
#5 Iowa* 12-1 at #4 Oklahoma 11-1
#6 Stanford 11-2 at #3 Michigan State 12-1
#7 Ohio State* 11-1 at #2 Alabama 12-1

Left Out
#8 Notre Dame 10-2, #9 Florida State 10-2, #10 North Carolina 11-2, #11 TCU 10-2

2016
(#15 Western Michigan 13-0) at #1 Alabama 13-0
#5 Penn State 11-2 at #4 Washington 12-1
#7 Oklahoma 10-2 at #3 Ohio State* 11-1
#6 Michigan* 10-2 at #2 Clemson 12-1

(Oklahoma and Michigan both finished 10-2, I'm using assumption they wouldve swapped their "ranking" in order to avoid the Michigan OSU rematch in R1.

Left Out
#8 Wisconsin 10-3

2017
(#12 UCF 13-0) at #1 Clemson 12-1
#5 Ohio State 11-2 at #4 Alabama* 11-1
#6 Wisconsin* 12-1 at #3 Georgia 12-1
#8 USC 11-2 at #2 Oklahoma 12-1

Left Out
#7 Auburn 10-3, #9 Penn State 10-2, #10 Miami 10-2, #11 Washington 10-2

2018 (My best guess)
#9 10-3 Washington at #1 Alabama 13-0
#5 Ohio State 12-1 at #4 Oklahoma 12-1
#6 Georgia* 11-2 at #3 Notre Dame* 13-0
(#7 UCF 13-0) at #2 Clemson 13-0

Left Out
#8 Michigan 10-2
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 2:03 am
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72321 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:09 am to
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Eight Team Playoff with five Power 5 conference champions, best G5 conference champion, and two at-large bids


This is what I want.

Everyone then strives to win their conference championship and no one gets left out (the independents still have a shot as well.) Of course no matter the number someone will always feel left out, but this really gives everyone a shot and the season still means as much.

I want conference championships to continue to mean something and I think this is best for a college playoff format.

This was somewhat of a down year, but could someone do a model of what this might look like given this year's results?

You could still do seeding via rankings, perhaps by the committee or just bring back the BCS. I really think the whole idea of a committee is still ridiculous and unnecessary.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72321 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:14 am to
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It's 8. It always has been 8. 5 Conference Champions 3 At-Large. No more, no less. Too many logical reasons for it.


Exactly.

This honestly solves everything.

It keeps EVERYONE truly invested and striving for two things. Conference championship and playoffs. The season still very much means something.

It just makes soo much sense.. It's the perfect football playoff format. It's like NFL with their division winners and wild cards.

5 conference champs and 3 at large teams selected. Have the committee these three if you want to keep the committee. People will always complain on whichever teams miss the cut off, however, you still have the satisfaction knowing well you should have won your division.. so you can never truly gripe about being left off.. and ND still has a chance to make it.. as well as whoever the new flavor small school is..
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72321 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:21 am to
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2018 (My best guess)

#9 10-3 Washington at #1 Alabama 13-0
#5 Ohio State 12-1 at #4 Oklahoma
#6 12-1 Georgia* 11-2 at #3 Notre Dame* 13-0
#7 UCF 13-0 at #2 Clemson 13-0


This would be so fun. I'd really like if Georgia had jumped Ohio St. I don't think Washington would get in over Michigan or even 3 loss LSU.

So I think it'd be Alabama\Michigan.. would would have been fun as well. In fact, I fully believe it would be Michigan over Washington.

I'd love to see Georgia/Clemson and Notre Dame/UCF, but those matchups are still great with
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:23 am to
This post proves we need better math teachers.
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5703 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:25 am to
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This would be so fun. I'd really like if Georgia had jumped Ohio St. I don't think Washington would get in over Michigan or even 3 loss LSU. 



I set this up with the Power 5 Champs, Highest ranked Group of 5 Champ and 2 At-Larges.
Posted by Heavy C
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
49 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:34 am to
I believe 6 teams should be in it and the top 2 get byes.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34878 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:45 am to
8 is the answer
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53732 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 3:00 am to
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teams are gonna get left out and it really is a travesty.

should have thought about that when you lost
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13425 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 3:22 am to
Why? There are two teams that can win and 3 if Georgia gets in. I personally could care less about the 4th spot.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 3:36 am to
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2 teams are gonna get left out and it really is a travesty


And when it's a 6 team playoff, you're going to say it's a tragedy that #7 And #8 aren't getting in.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13425 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 3:41 am to
Exactly there is no travesty. OU and tOSU can’t complain too hard. It’s Clemson and Bama with ND getting their asses whooped as well as team #4. Take your pick.
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