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re: Things we will never see again in sports

Posted on 8/12/10 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 10:13 am to
BTW, the last time that it happened was 1962...
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 10:16 am to
it'd be funny if the catholic league football titleless streak continued indefinitely... (last title shaw in 1987)

but one of them is going to have a run in a year when WM gets knocked off early
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 10:22 am to
Arkansas: 8 consectutive Track and Field national titles (1992-1999)

LSU (women): 11 consectutive Track and Field national titles (1987-1997)
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:05 am to
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the last time that it happened was 1962


pretty sure the only time it happened was 1962
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:08 am to
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- An SEC football team going undefeated (including postseason) and NOT winning the NC



only a matter of time till this happens again... unless we get more than a single championship game
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:19 am to
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That you had to go 12 and 8 years back to find two outliers proves my point.
All landmark athletic achievements deal in extreme outliers, my friend. I do think of the many scenarios presented in this thread, the one you brought up was one of the most interesting.

When you consider that there is only one Heisman winner per year, the possibility of this happening is really limited. So if one happened in 1962, we can say one out of the last 47 winners has done it. For the sake of clean numbers, let's say one in the last 50 years, or 2 percent of the Heisman winners of the past 50 years.

I think that the fact that there are 2 examples in the past 12 years of athletes who at least had the apparent means to achieve it (being superstar football players playing basketball at powerhouse programs) would show that the achievement is not impossible. Improbable?--Absolutely, but all of the noteworthy athletic accomplishments are by definition, improbable, rare outliers.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:23 am to
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a guy that good, the coach will let him do what he wants.



False. Coaches these days at top programs are on the hotseat for going 8-4. You lose your Heisman candidate QB because he got injured playing hoops will get you fired. Plus, your hoops playing QB (for example) has to choose basketball over spring practice or vice versa.



I don't think it will happen with basketball/football because college basketball is a mess and the best players are generally one and done

but obviously still happens in baseball/football - chad jones last year comes to my mind
Posted by SprintFun
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:28 am to
Terrelle Pryor would have the chance to do this, but he chose to stick to football. Not sure if the strengthens or hurts the argument.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:30 am to
14+ golf Majors
Posted by SprintFun
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:31 am to
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14+ golf Majors


It can happen. I wouldn't put it in the never category.


Some of Federer's records in Tennis maybe.
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:32 am to
Saban coaching at LSU
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:33 am to
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It can happen. I wouldn't put it in the never category.
I disagree, I don't think we'll ever see the Jack/Tiger dominance again especially in a rapidly growing sport like golf
Posted by TulaneLawTiger
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:43 am to
TulaneTigerFan or Ghazi, what series and player are you referring to?






Posted by DallasTiger11
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:59 am to
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TulaneTigerFan or Ghazi, what series and player are you referring to?

They are referring to Dwayne Wade in the Miami-Dallas NBA Finals series in 2006.
Posted by Bullethead88
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:36 pm to
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BTW, the last time that it happened was 1962...

And even when it happened in 1962, the Heisman winner was the second best college football player.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:50 pm to
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Dwayne Wade in the Miami-Dallas NBA Finals series in 2006.



What a performance!!!!!
Posted by PokerLawyer
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 2:51 pm to
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Some of Federer's records in Tennis maybe.

+1

You ain't going to see anyone win 5 consecutive Wimbledons in a row and damn sure won't see anyone come close to his career grand slam singles titles mark.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 2:54 pm to
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pretty sure the only time it happened was 1962


Part of my point. I'm not tossing "never" around very lightly with this one because athletes don't play multiple sports like they used to (due to the money issue), which makes the competition so much stronger.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 3:00 pm to
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And even when it happened in 1962, the Heisman winner was the second best college football player.


Who was the first, if not the guy who won the Maxwell Award, the Voit Trophy, was SI's Sportsman of the Year, won 14 player of the year awards, and was a consensus first team All American?

What, you thought Jerry Stovall or Lee Roy Jordan should have won?
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 3:08 pm to
Russell Shepard throw a pass
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