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re: They came for Bill Simmons
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:38 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:38 am to wildtigercat93
What hit piece that article is 
Yeah bro it's the CEOs job to knight for you on twitter when they think your article sucks.
Honestly this is all on Bill for trying to appease in the first place. Hire who you want especially if they bring traffic (Ryen).
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Four former black employees, three of whom spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of antagonizing Mr. Simmons, said they often felt uncomfortable at The Ringer. A few of them said that they were sometimes heaped with racist abuse on social media and in online comments when they covered topics that might not have fit the expectations of the typical Ringer reader, including a post on Beyoncé. Top editors did little to defend them on social media when they were under attack, they said.
Yeah bro it's the CEOs job to knight for you on twitter when they think your article sucks.
Honestly this is all on Bill for trying to appease in the first place. Hire who you want especially if they bring traffic (Ryen).
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:38 am to AHM21
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He gave his 14 year old daughter a job and yet he bitches about it not being open mic night?
i'm spitballing here, but i imagine they were already trying to focus on younger audience members and nobody else on staff could fill it
if that happened, his comments aren't hypocritical at all
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:39 am to LSUSaintsHornets
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Yeah bro it's the CEOs job to knight for you on twitter when they think your article sucks.
Twitter is such a media circle jerk that I can see how this is now expected
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:39 am to saintsfan22
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But House, Zoey Simmons, and Nephew Kyle didn't get there because of talent. Also probably not the reason Tic Tok and Melatonin got the intro to The Book of Basketball pods.
He didn’t have black friends or family to hire
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:44 am to wildtigercat93
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This part of the argument has nothing to do with calling him out for saying he can’t have open mic night on his pods, when he clearly can
Sure it does, he made an exception to give his daughter a podcast, he's not going to go out on a limb for a random person like he would for his daughter. I doubt anyone expects a podcast that is put out by a 15 to be worth a shite, they would have higher expectations for podcasts put out by adults on his platform.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:45 am to Epic Cajun
i would just like to add a random comment that "Woke" Fennessey is always the most uncomfortable and most vocal guy when they discuss dicks on the Rewatchables. it's quite homophobic
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:46 am to wildtigercat93
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This part of the argument has nothing to do with calling him out for saying he can’t have open mic night on his pods, when he clearly can
Who cares? The owners daughter gets treated differently at pretty much every private company you’ll ever work for. It’s a throwaway podcast to make his home life a little better.
The stakes are a bit higher with podcast then 5-6 years ago with money getting thrown at JR, the ringer and barstool. Not every dipshit gets a podcast
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:47 am
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:50 am to Dire Wolf
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Who cares? The owners daughter gets treated differently at pretty much every private company you’ll ever work for. It’s a throwaway podcast to make his home life a little better.
Again, I have no problem with her getting a podcast
Just don’t sit there with a straight face like you have some high bar of standard for putting a podcast on your network
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:53 am to wildtigercat93
i think it's all just business decisions and not about high standards
throwing a hail mary on seeing if a podcast can siphon off some viewers from Yutetube? worth it
throwing a hail mary on some likely horrible idea by a person with some non-privileged trait? not worth it
throwing a hail mary on seeing if a podcast can siphon off some viewers from Yutetube? worth it
throwing a hail mary on some likely horrible idea by a person with some non-privileged trait? not worth it
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:55 am to wildtigercat93
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Just don’t sit there with a straight face like you have some high bar of standard for putting a podcast on your network
I think a reasonable person can see the difference. I doubt he was expecting to profit off his 14 year old or worried about her saying something stupid. Little easier to reign your daughter in then some asshat that’s already blasting you on Twitter and starting a union
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:57 am to tigerfan88
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Simmons staffed the ringer almost exclusively with coastal SJW’s under 35.
Simmons during the covid shite and basically any thing regarding Trump is quintessential uppity lib lack of self awareness.
He will do this "now isnt the time for bickering, we need to come together on this issue" which means "you bitches need to wholesale adopt the left thinking point of view while we dont move one iota and then we will laud ourselves for compromising"
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:03 am to bwallcubfan
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Isn’t JackO a republican?
He's "im a republican but hold almost all democrat viewpoints and exist solely so you I can agree with you and you can feel like you are open-minded for agreeing and being friends with a 'republican'"
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:04 am to Jack Ruby
I don’t see anything
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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think it's all just business decisions and not about high standards
throwing a hail mary on seeing if a podcast can siphon off some viewers from Yutetube? worth it
throwing a hail mary on some likely horrible idea by a person with some non-privileged trait? not worth it
And that’s fine and all if that’s how he wants to justify it, just don’t be surprised when those decisions lead to an unhappy staff
you know it’s killing Simmons knowing he’s not the cool boss anymore Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:24 am to wildtigercat93
quote:The best one was the Ringer Union or certain folks who were mad that he gave the Atlanta podcast to a white person. Then it goes on to explain the black person conceived the entire thing, pitched the podcast, etc.
Yeah I think overall the complaints are pretty silly
So their complaint was essentially the white person came up with this great idea and got an Atlanta podcast greenlit, but they should then cast that person aside and give it to a black person who took on initiative and did nothing to earn that podcast. That was, uhh, something.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:27 am to wildtigercat93
i always assumed he was a real dick outside of his inner circle and he legit doesn't believe in most of the SJW stuff
he's 100% a guy who would defend the smell of his own farts
he's 100% a guy who would defend the smell of his own farts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I've always got this vibe as well
always assumed he was a real dick outside of his inner circle and he legit doesn't believe in most of the SJW stuff
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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i always assumed he was a real dick outside of his inner circle and he legit doesn't believe in most of the SJW stuff
Yeah for sure. I think the Ringer largely started as him trying to surround himself with younger talent so that people would still view him as the up and coming sports guy and not the top dog podcaster he was at the time. He went in deep on trying to adopt as many opinions and really rectoning his entire personality to fit what the younger writers were or wanted and it still didn’t really work.
Atleast on the rewatchables side of things, he started the last year or so walking back the constant complaining and putting today’s values on older movies bc he realized it just sucked the entire fun out of the podcast. But there was a run there where they ruined some great opportunities for a good reatchables pod (wedding crashers May be the biggest offender)
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he's 100% a guy who would defend the smell of his own farts
Also explains why he surrounds himself with people who would never dare cross him, outside of Cousin Sal and Russilo (who still toe a certain line)
Other people he has pod casts with are nervous to challenge him on anything. Hell, The Bloodsport pod they waited an entire like 20 minutes before pointing out that he was completely mispronouncing Van Damms name
and Simmons was so thrown off he switched pronunciations 100 times after that.Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:35 am to wildtigercat93
quote:remember any given Wednesday lmao
. I think the Ringer largely started as him trying to surround himself with younger talent so that people would still view him as the up and coming sports guy and not the top dog podcaster he was at the time. He went in deep on trying to adopt as many opinions and really rectoning his entire personality to fit what the younger writers were or wanted and it still didn’t really work.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:36 am to LSUSaintsHornets
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Honestly this is all on Bill for trying to appease in the first place. Hire who you want especially if they bring traffic (Ryen).
Speaking of Ryen, after Ryen took some heat, I found it hilarious on the June 14 redraftable pod, Bill opens by himself talking about race for like 15 mins then brings in Ryen to talk redraft. I laughed.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 10:37 am
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