re: The Urban Meyer Situation is NOT a Title IX Issue

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.anyone who was aware of these accusations was/is a mandatory reporter if they were employed by tOSU. That too falls under the sexual misconduct policy at that place which, as I said, is maintained by the Title IX office at tOSU.

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So shouldn’t urban’s wife be the one getting fired here? Everyone’s tripping over themselves to get Urban fired on the probability that he knew about this, but dont we have written proof that urb’s wife knew and didn’t report it, and she’s on staff at osu?
Nobody cares because she’s a nobody and that’s not a news story, but an elite football coach is more newsworthy so he gets the axe?

Oh Urban’s wife could definitely be fired for cause Bc of all the texts and things related to that she was involved with

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Given this and what we have seen about Courtney Smith, are you honestly telling me you don't think a team of lawyers can find a reason to fire urban over Smith on staff for years? I find it hard to believe they won't be able to find something, I find it hard to believe that Urban didn't cover up some additional things we don't know about but that some reporters interviewing the police right now may.

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What I'm saying is that if tOSU wishes to fire Urban Meyer for cause, they are going to have to find some other cause than "because he violated Title IX"...because he didn't violate Title IX.

I have not looked at his contract other than the 2018 amendment that was brought to my attention, and so i cannot rule out the possibility that tOSU might be able to find another cause.

They can always fire him, but if they do that they are likely not going to be delighted with the prospect of paying him 38 million dollars. And so they are going to find a way to avoid doing that. This thread was for the purpose of putting to rest the notion that a title ix violation is part of that calculus, and to hopefully get posters to maybe refrain from referencing title ix all willy nilly.

In the end, it’s ultimately gonna come down to what the OSU investigation reveals with respect to what and the extent of what Urban knew concerning this 2015 allegation that was dropped by law enforcement. If it’s more sinister than what we know now, for cause termination would be appropriate and Urban likely wouldn’t be able to raise a successful lawsuit.

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I have not looked at his contract other than the 2018 amendment that was brought to my attention, and so i cannot rule out the possibility that tOSU might be able to find another cause.

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I believe I found a copy of the original contract (along with the first 3 addendums):
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EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT

The Ohio State University ("Ohio State") and Urban F. Meyer ("Coach") agree as follows:

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5. Termination
o. Commission of or participation in by Coach of any act, situation, or occurrence which, in Ohio State's judgment, brings Coach and/or Ohio State into public disrepute, embarrassment, contempt, scandal or ridicule or failure by Coach to conform Coach's personal conduct to conventional and contemporary standards of good citizenship, with such conduct offending prevailing social mores and values and/or reflecting unfavorably upon Ohio State's reputation and overall primary mission and objectives, including but not limited to, acts of dishonesty, misrepresentation, fraud or violence that may or may not warrant criminal prosecution by the relevant authorities.

It is recognized that this sub-section (5.1 a-o) encompasses findings or determinations of violations during employment of Coach at Ohio State or any other institution of higher learning.

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And this is from the original employment contract. It certainly lines up with the added (p) paragraph in section 5 from the latest addendum; so this has been in force the entire time and seems to still be active in his employment contract.

It seems like this could bring CUM and Ohio State into public embarrassment, disrepute, or scandal. Especially with Urban not conforming his behavior with contemporary social mores and values.

So it looks like Ohio State has some language it could use if they want to drop him, but it'll be up to whether they can stand the bad P.R.

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I. Reporting Allegations of Sexual Misconduct A. A report can be made by any individual who is directly involved in, who observes, or who reasonably believes that sexual misconduct may have occurred. This includes allegations by third parties against any individual covered by this policy. Members of the university community have a duty to report such information; see Employee Duty to Report section above.


Not "shall be made" not a required duty

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Your grasp of English is woeful.

It says "can be made" because this is a list of all the people who potentially could report.

What is it about "Members of the university community have a duty to report such information" that is it confusing to you? What is it about "have a duty" that escapes your comprehension?

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BamaGrad

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Your grasp of English is woeful.

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Correct. It's interesting how difficult this simple point has been for some.

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I'm not kissing Slackster's butt, but he has a very clear breakdown of the situation on P. 3 of this thread. It outlines exactly what the issue is with cites to the relevant language in policies and the contract.

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Yeah, I read it. It doesn't change what I said.

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If he gets fired with cause, it would be for a violation of OSU employee policy on reporting suspected domestic abuse.

If he knew of the abuse, he violated the policy. That's why I'd cited to Slackster's post. It does a good job of tracing how the violation of school policy also violates his contract.

Fans never cease to amaze me. They are completely irrational when it comes to a player/coach they like. Urban is total scum. Always has been, but he's good so most OSU fans will support him. Conversely, if he sucked, they'd be all in this is a fireable offense.