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Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
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Tards think doping gives him the best returns the game has ever seen.
Tards like you think Barry Bonds hit homeruns naturally.
He added unnatural strength to an already great swing ala Djoker's return.
Djoker once couldn't last 5 sets, now he outlasts everybody and is stronger than anybody.
Yeah, level playing field.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:04 am to Taurus
quote:He was 18-20 when that was happening, frickING 18
Djoker once couldn't last 5 sets
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 10:05 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:15 am to lsupride87
And he is a drug cheat ala his fellow countrymen. (one got busted)
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:23 pm to lsupride87
that dude believes everyone in tennis is a cheat except for Federer.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:50 pm to lsupride87
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He was 18-20 when that was happening, frickING 18
What about when he couldn't last 2 out of 3 sets in his early/mid twenties and retired at least 8 times due to his "breathing" issues?
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:53 pm to Roscoe
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:56 pm to Roscoe
These clowns just put themselves way off schedule by cancelling matches.
I do not understand why they just cant move some matches around and let them go to Court 1 if running behind on Centre etc.
I do not understand why they just cant move some matches around and let them go to Court 1 if running behind on Centre etc.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:52 pm to Roscoe
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Or when he had anthrax, bird flu, sars....
I find it insulting that yall are having a peds argument without including Serena.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:48 pm to sms151t
The worst part is that sunrise is at 5 am and they don't start until 11:30 am. They will be fine though. Middle Sunday can be used to catch up.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:54 pm to lsupride87
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They get no money either. It is a joke how poorly the ATP handles the money. They funnel everything to the top players, and leave everyone else fighting for scraps. There has been a huge push to try and steal some of the PGA tours executives and get them to fix the ATP
This. These guys put in years of work, and when they finally earn a shot in a major, they are facing a top seed in the 1st or 2nd round. If everyone really is doping, I can see why.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:55 pm to bayoucracka
They won't play Sunday unless it's really bad behind. I only remember 1 time ever playing the Sunday.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:12 am to lsupride87
If we were to assume that gambling were legal, I might lean towards these plays for the day.
None of them for big money,. Mere sprinkles all around.
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ATP Tennis 502 Viktor Troicki -380* vs Albert Ramos-Vinolas
ATP Tennis 513 Nick Kyrgios -810* vs Dustin Brown
ATP Tennis 521 Benoit Paire -130* vs John Millman
ATP Tennis 494 Stanislas Wawrinka -145* vs Juan Martin del Potro
ATP Tennis 446 Gilles Simon -115* vs Grigor Dimitrov
ATP Tennis 430 Milos Raonic -750* vs Andreas Seppi
ATP Tennis 441 Jeremy Chardy +150* vs Steve Johnson
ATP Tennis 421 Nicolas Almagro +195* vs Denis Istomin
ATP Tennis 414 David Ferrer -145* vs Nicolas Mahut
ATP Tennis 277 Lucas Pouille +125* vs Marius Copil
ATP Tennis 229 Dominic Thiem -285* vs Florian Mayer
None of them for big money,. Mere sprinkles all around.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:22 am to sms151t
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I forgot to ask earlier in thread, but
(a) did Murray go back to Lendl?
(b) is Johnny Mac coaching Raonic?
Yes and yes.
(a)
Murray going back to Lendl is absolutely the smartest thing he could have done. Lendl has some serious jedi power over the Scot. His game and on court demeanor change noticeably -- and for the better on both fronts -- as soon as Lendl rolls back on the scene. I know that Lendl left Murray last time because he was sick of the travel demands -- and so it's not as if Murray fired him or anything -- but if I"m Murray, I pony up the cash to keep Lendl in the fold for a couple more years. I have no idea what the top players pay their coaches*, but whatever that amount is, Murray needs to pay Lendl double that.
It's not like Murray is strapped for cash.
(b)
Johnny Mac was hired on by Raonic as essentially a coaching consultant for the grass court season. But Raonic apparently likes what he adds to the equation, and has expressed interest in keeping him on the payroll for the foreseeable future.
Speaking of paying money to coaches, Raonic is definitely winning the gold medal in a coaching payroll contest. He's got three of them, and you know Moya and Johnny Mac don't come cheap.
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*this is something that pride might be able to help us out with.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 5:31 am
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:39 am to Bunk Moreland
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The top guys all have access to whatever means if they want to cheat. The only guys I feel bad for might be some 200 ranked dude who doesn't have the resources.
Okay, there might be valid reasons for one to feel bad about some 200 ranked dude. But if you're suggesting that the reason he's ranked 200 is because he lacks the resources to cheat, then stop with the silliness.
The reason he's ranked 200 is because he's not good enough at tennis to be ranked 20...or 2. Every single top player in the history of the sport was once just "some 200 ranked dude". They just weren't that for long.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:55 am to lsupride87
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They get no money either. It is a joke how poorly the ATP handles the money. They funnel everything to the top players, and leave everyone else fighting for scraps. There has been a huge push to try and steal some of the PGA tours executives and get them to fix the ATP
Seems pretty fair to me. The further you advance in the draw, the more money you make. It's an economic meritocracy. If you're arguing that they should just take some of the money at the top of the pyramid and spread it around to the early round pay amounts, that's not an unreasonable position, but the short answer is that they already started doing this a few years ago (LINK and have continued with that trend every year.
If you're arguing that Challenger level guys need to be making more money, I think that's an admirable goal -- and the top players think so too -- but you end up running into the problem of where does that money come from? You're aware of the crowds, or lack thereof, at challenger tournaments. And all of those tournaments are just businesses. They aren't going to exist if the amount they pay the players causes them to lose money.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 5:56 am
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:11 am to bayoucracka
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This. These guys put in years of work, and when they finally earn a shot in a major, they are facing a top seed in the 1st or 2nd round. If everyone really is doping, I can see why.
I don't know of a better example of pure competition -- in all its beauty and ruthlessness -- than professional tennis. In tennis, there's no such thing as (i) a mediocre QB who rides a great offensive system, or a great defense, or both, to huge paydays and hall of fame enshrinement, (ii) or a boxer who climbs up the list of contenders with the help of clever management that hand-picks his opponents with an eye towards hiding his weaknesses.
Nope. None of that. It's pure, unadulterated darwinism at every step along the way: Futures. Qualies into Challengers, Challengers, Qualies into ATP events, Qualies into majors, 250s, 500s, Masters, Majors.
So, yeah, there is a ton of incentive to dope. Honestly, if I were a challenger-level guy or an ATP journeyman, I feel like I'd give doping some serious thought.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:44 am to MidnightVibe
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:01 am to pelicansfan123
I don't know, man. Brown is terrible with his junk kamikaze ball, but he beat someone last year who is 1000x more mentally tough than Kyrgios and has some of the best passing shots ever, so who knows.
I almost always root for Fed, but would love a miracle today on Centre Court.
I almost always root for Fed, but would love a miracle today on Centre Court.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:35 am to Bunk Moreland
Dustin Brown is up?
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