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re: The Top 10 Coaches in FBS history?

Posted on 11/15/24 at 6:59 am to
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 6:59 am to
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Switzer helped create that favorable situation as he was Fairbanks's OC from the word go.

I mentioned this. But being an OC and HC are not the same gig, are they?
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Compare them to other head coaches who walked into ideal situations like Larry Coker with Miami and Les Miles with LSU. While they were successful for a time, they eventually flamed out and were fired.

Does favorable mean automatic success… or just that it helps? Would you rather start in an unfavorable situation because not everyone in the profession has succeeded long term in favorable situations?
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 7:02 am
Posted by Norway
Member since Aug 2024
995 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:22 am to
Urban belongs in top 10.

Spurrier doesn't even get an honorable mention?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:34 am to
Switzer had 12 conference championships not 11. Anyone see the ESPN article a few weeks back where he fathered a kid at 55 that he just found out about?
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:39 am to
I hate everything kansas but you’ve GOT to respect what Bill Snyder accomplished at k-State.

They were legitimately horrendous for their entire history until he showed up.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69484 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 9:03 am to
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But being an OC and HC are not the same gig, are they?


They aren’t. As Larry Coker found out. He turned what was the best program in the country into absolute shite in just four years. They are only now just starting to recover.

Osborne and Switzer not only sustained, they improved on their predecessors in a number of areas.

Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 9:44 am to
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He coached at Auburn for a quarter century and only had one 10-win season.
For the record....

He coached at Auburn for 25 years...22 of which were only 10 game regular seasons.

He was also the HEAD basketball coach at Georgia for four seasons and Auburn for ten seasons.

After his eighth year as the head basketball coach at Auburn, he interrupted his coaching career to volunteer for WWII to serve his country.

He was wounded while storming the beaches of Normandy on D-Day and received a Purple Heart and Bronze Star.

He then returned to Auburn to resume his football and basketball coaching careers.

Bear Bryant (another coach who served his country in WWII and survived his ship being rammed which caused 13 deaths and many injuries) once famously said "Shug has more courage in his little finger than I've got in my entire body".

That is the kind of respect that Shug garnered from one of the titans of coaching.

ETA: My Dad was a QB for Shug from 1956-1959. He played in every game of the 1957 National Championship season. Vince Dooley was his QB coach and his roommate was Jackie Burkett....who was the center for Saints on Tom Dempsey's 63 yard FG.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 9:48 am
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8539 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 9:48 am to
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Bo Schembechler (234-65-8)
The famed head coach of the Michigan Wolverines, Bo would lead his beloved university to 194 wins and nine Rose Bowl appearances.


Also never won a national title and was 2 - 8 in the Rose Bowl.

He belongs nowhere near a top 15 list.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 9:51 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66343 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 10:12 am to
Agreed.

Corch Irving Mayas seems way too low given what he did at four programs.

This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38979 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 10:31 am to
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Bo Schembechler (234-65-8)


He was elevated to icon status by beating the great Woody Hayes...(Nick Saban probably revered Woody. "the process") and he won a lot of Big10 titles.

But every time on the big stage when he came out West he flopped.

His Rose Bowl record is abysmal.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by moontigr
Commanders/LA Kings/Detroit Tigers
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:30 am to
Osborne struggled mightily in bowl games until he adapted in the early 90s and started recruiting speed. Props to him for that.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38979 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:43 am to
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Osborne struggled mightily in bowl games until he adapted in the early 90s a


He was like Bo....2-8 in the 80s. And "adapted" is a kind word for recruiting Felons. Those farm boys got kicked to the curb.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
821 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:25 pm to
Spurrier was more elite than 90% of the list. Go back and look at what he inherited vs what he did with those programs.
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 2:05 pm to
1. 2019 Coach O
2. Everyone else
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69484 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 2:20 pm to
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He coached at Auburn for 25 years...22 of which were only 10 game regular seasons.



That's what separates good coaches from elite coaches. Bud Wilkinson coached the Oklahoma Sooners for 17 seasons - all of which were 10-game regular seasons. Eight of those 17 seasons saw his teams win 10 games or more.

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That is the kind of respect that Shug garnered from one of the titans of coaching.



I do not doubt Shug's courage or character. He was a good coach who pulled Auburn out of decades of mediocrity. However, he wouldn't be included on any serious list of the 10-15 greatest college football coaches of all-time.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69484 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Spurrier was more elite than 90% of the list. Go back and look at what he inherited vs what he did with those programs.



Spurrier is a Top 20 coach but it's difficult to have him in the Top 10 when his was only the third best program in the state of Florida for much of his tenure in Gainesville.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26391 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 2:25 pm to
The Purple Wizard did more with less than anyone on that board and it isn't close. KState was literally the worst program in major CFB history before he got there.

Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5286 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 3:13 pm to
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Osborne and Switzer not only sustained, they improved on their predecessors in a number of areas.

Really just longevity.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 3:18 pm to
Bill Snyder in the top 5 without a doubt.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69484 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Really just longevity.


Which wouldn’t be possible at either of those schools if you weren’t consistently competing for championships - which is what both coaches did during their time there. They both have the requisite number of national championships, conference championships, Top 10/15 finishes, 10-win seasons, and major bowl appearances to finish high on this list.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:00 pm to
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