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The positive side of the CFB Playoff Fiasco

Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:06 pm
Not saying I like what the committee has done by any means. But at least there are more good teams this year. I remember the last few years, there were very few quality teams that had any argument that they should be included in the playoffs. Last year, we automatically knew that there were only two teams that matter and everything else is a waste.


This year, there are so many teams that look so good and that could claim for a playoff spot. It’s going to make the end of the season all that more intense.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:08 pm to
you're mad at the future? weird melt dude. at least wait until actual controversy exists. not the manufactured drama
Posted by FulshearTiger
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:10 pm to
What CFB playoff fiasco are you referring to?
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:20 pm to
There is no fiasco
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:25 pm to
The Playoff has had 3 “controversial” entrants in its short history. Those teams went 4-1 and won 2 National Championships

2014: Ohio State
2016: Ohio State
2017: Bama

Other than 2014 TCU/Baylor, which was a really tough decision anyway, what is the most debatable Final Decision that the Committee has ever made?
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:30 pm to
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There is no fiasco


A real fiasco would be if a team that might be natty level was left out. That happens less with the playoffs than BCS.

I'm not sure you can really make a case that any team left out of the CFP to date had a real good shot at a NC. Generally, the teams that could win have been in.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:33 pm to
People act like a 1 loss conference champ isn't gonna leap bama just because they are behind them right now. I really don't see any way bama keeps out a 1 loss pac 12 or OU big 12 champ. Baylor and minnesota probably need to go undefeated to get in but they at least control their own destiny
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Other than 2014 TCU/Baylor, which was a really tough decision anyway, what is the most debatable Final Decision that the Committee has ever made?


Auburn being penalized for beating Alabama, having to play UGA a 2nd time and lose, allowing Alabama to get back in
Posted by karmew32
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:40 pm to
Only Bama was undeserving. Ohio State deserved both of their playoff berths.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Auburn being penalized for beating Alabama


They were penalized for beating Bama by being ranked third (going off memory here), with two losses mind you going into the SECCG? That's a ridiculous assertion, they respected the hell out of Auburn as they were clearly going to be in the playoffs with two losses.

Ridiculous statement.

Eta: just checked and Auburn, with two losses, was SECOND! after beating Bama. But yeah they were penalized

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having to play UGA a 2nd time and lose
that is an sec problem, not a committee problem.

This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 12:44 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:42 pm to
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minnesota probably need to go undefeated
Nonsense

Say they lose to Iowa then win out

They will have two top ten wins (ohio state and Penn state) and and additional ranked win in Wisconsin


They would be in easily
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:43 pm to
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Auburn being penalized for beating Alabama, having to play UGA a 2nd time and lose, allowing Alabama to get back in


Auburn wound up where they wound up because they had two losses before the SECCG.

Post-bowls, there were 5 P5 teams with a single loss and UCF being undefeated. Auburn's biggest problem happened before the SECCCG.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Only Bama was undeserving. Ohio State deserved both of their playoff berths.



Wait, I want to hear this logic

So when 11-1 Ohio state, who lost to 11-2 Big ten champ Penn state deserved to be in over Penn st


But, in 2017 11-1 Bama didnt deserve to be in over 11-2 Big Ten Champ Ohio State?
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Auburn being penalized for beating Alabama, having to play UGA a 2nd time and lose, allowing Alabama to get back in


How exactly were they penalized for beating Alabama? Had they lost the Iron Bowl they would have been eliminated. What they were penalized for was having 2 regular season losses before Championship Saturday
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:47 pm to
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How exactly were they penalized for beating Alabama? Had they lost the Iron Bowl they would have been eliminated. What they were penalized for was having 2 regular season losses before Championship Saturday
Not really. It is still an illogical process due to conf champ games


The comittee said Auburn was #2 and better than bama

Then, Auburn is forced to play an extra game due to beating Bama, which they lose dropping them below Bama who didnt play


The truth is conf champ games make this thing a mess for that reason.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:50 pm to
Right, but that's not a committee problem. That's a conference problem. If you play a game, that's going to count.
The Big 12 went out and added that CCG and so far, the extra game has helped. But it's a two-edged sword for sure.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Right, but that's not a committee problem. That's a conference problem. If you play a game, that's going to count.
The Big 12 went out and added that CCG and so far, the extra game has helped. But it's a two-edged sword for sure.

Im not saying you are wrong, but it needs to be rectified going forward someway

Lets assume pac 12 and big 12 champs both have 2 losses

I would for one be completely fine with Bama making it.


Now, LSU has to play an extra game for being the better team. It is just ludicrous for this to be the process

Imagine if in the NFL the division champs didnt get the byes, but the wildcard teams did. That essentially has happened and can continue to happen in college football
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:54 pm to
Actually 2017 Wisky is the better example


They were 12-0 after the regular season and in the top 4

Bama was 11-1 and not in the top 4


Wisky then is forced to play an extra game, dropping them below bama. That is so illogical its hard to type


Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:56 pm to
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The comittee said Auburn was #2 and better than bama

Then, Auburn is forced to play an extra game due to beating Bama, which they lose dropping them below Bama who didnt play


Teams coming off byes jump teams that lost every single year

The committee saw Auburn lose by 3 scores and used it as data to take AU out of the top 4
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:58 pm to
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Teams coming off byes jump teams that lost every single year

The committee saw Auburn lose by 3 scores and used it as data to take AU out of the top 4


Judging one team on 13 games and then other teams on 12 games is so stupid it hurts my brain

I should have started with the 12-0 Wisconsin example instead of auburn.
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