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re: The phantom/ticky-tack PI calls are ruining the NFL. Refs have way too much power
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:25 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:25 am to wildtigercat93
Again, the fact that he got a concussion doesn't necessarily mean it was forcible to the head.
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:26 am to LNCHBOX
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For the Pats.
Nah for every team in the league.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:27 am to TH03
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You can get concussions without hitting your head, like whiplash.
Yeah, just a little incidental whiplash, Gronk. Shake it off
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:27 am to TH03
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Again, the fact that he got a concussion doesn't necessarily mean it was forcible to the head.
But whenever there is contact with the helmet, and a concussion was the result of the play, it doesn't take a genius to say that those two helmets met each other with a very large amount of force.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:59 am to wildtigercat93
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Helmet to helmet on a defenseless WR. Easy call idk what you're arguing
Idk what's going on in here. I thought that was a penalty live, and I still think it's a penalty on replays.
It wasn't malicious, but Gronk was defenseless, and the contact was forcible to the head, even though it started at the shoulder.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:00 pm to slackster
That's fine.
Call PI equally, then.
Call PI equally, then.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:03 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Call PI equally, then.
I thought they missed 3 PI calls in the game, and Bouye's was uncatchable. The 3 missed calls were all plays where the defender hooked the WR before the ball got there. Jags got away with one early on a deep post, and Patriots got away with one on Lewis late and another WR in the 2nd half. All three were the same types of plays, and all three went uncalled. I guess you can argue they were consistent with those calls, but not consistent with the overall concept of PI.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:08 pm to schwartzy
Reason why I cut down my NFL watching 90%.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:10 pm to slackster
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quote: Helmet to helmet on a defenseless WR. Easy call idk what you're arguing Idk what's going on in here. I thought that was a penalty live, and I still think it's a penalty on replays. It wasn't malicious, but Gronk was defenseless, and the contact was forcible to the head, even though it started at the shoulder.
Proof that this board will argue anything and everything
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:10 pm to MidnightVibe
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That you're an idiot.
frickin Pats fan cant take the glasses off for one second when watching the games. Wild tiger either. You guys have to be kidding if you think Bradys line gives him all day without holding. 1 penalty yesterday. ONE!! in a 60 minute game. The world is to believe this is a mistake free football team.
I watch every game I can so you frickers cant tell me Im just a butthurt Saints fan. I seent it all and nothing surprises me.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:13 pm to saintsfan1977
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frickin Pats fan cant take the glasses off for one second when watching the games. Wild tiger either. You guys have to be kidding if you think Bradys line gives him all day without holding.
Jags weren't called for holding either. Are you saying that they were perfect as well?
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1 penalty yesterday. ONE!! in a 60 minute game. The world is to believe this is a mistake free football team.
Vs 3 non presnap penalties against the Jags.
Seems like the refs felt like both sides played a pretty clean game.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:23 pm to Zoltan
quote:Eh, I think that just brings subjectivity back into the mix, and that's essentially the root of the problem.
Maybe you make different classes of penalties, 10, 20, 30 yards, etc. depending on the depth of the throw with spot fouls to the one only on something that occurs in the endzone.
I think it should be 15yds, but also a reviewable foul. The refs are often in very poor position to make a PI call, so I see no reason why a coach shouldn't be able to challenge it.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:23 pm to wildtigercat93
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Vs 3 non presnap penalties against the Jags.
6 for 98 yards vs 1 for 10 yds
Yea no discrepancy at all especially when the Pats got 3 first downs off of 3 them. Game is a joke baw. You think that team is legit but they get the benefit of playing in the East and have the officials in their pockets. You should put a star next to every game they in.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:25 pm to saintsfan1977
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6 for 98 yards vs 1 for 10 yds
Again 3 of those were pre snap penalties. 100 percent on the jaguars fricking up. You want the refs to ignore that?
The Gronk call was a no brainer. You want the refs to ignore that?
Go ahead and argue against the PI all day, but the refs didn't call much in play penalties for either side all game. Which is what everyone wants the refs to do except when the team they don't want to win doesn't get 100 penalties
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Worse than auto first downs?
This is the worst.
At least with DPI spot fouls you can argue that is where the ball would/could be but for the PI. Auto-first down is the dumbest thing going.
3rd & 15 but a linebacker commits defensive holding? Give em the 1st. WHAT?
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:23 pm to schwartzy
The ref in the Pats game was happy because Cameron Flemming stopped a potential fight. Myles Jack was throwing fists at Dion Lewis, and Flemming dragged Lewis away before it turned into an all out fight.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:26 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:They missed a few calls (Especially the two plays where M.Lewis was held).
Go ahead and argue against the PI all day, but the refs didn't call much in play penalties for either side all game. Which is what everyone wants the refs to do except when the team they don't want to win doesn't get 100 penalties
I also find it a bit weird that one only one angle of the Westbrook/Gilmore play.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:27 pm to JBeam
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hey missed a few calls (Especially the two plays where M.Lewis was held).
They missed calls on both sides. They let both sides play fairly penalty free. That's about as fair as you can get it.
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I also find it a bit weird that one only one angle of the Westbrook/Gilmore play.
What do you mean? The 4th and 12 play? That was nowhere near interference
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:29 pm to schwartzy
Receivers have caught on too. They create seperation with their hands all throughout the route leaving the defender no choice but to get handsy as well just to keep up with them. Early in the Saints/Vikings game Diggs even grabbed the defenders wrist, pulled it into his body, fell to the ground and got the call.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:31 pm to JBeam
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I also find it a bit weird that one only one angle of the Westbrook/Gilmore play.
Look at all that PI!!!
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