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re: **The Official 2011 NFL Draft Thread**
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
There is no doubt we gave up a lot, but who knows what the plans are for Bush. That's what I am waiting to see next.
No matter what, we added depth to the backfield next year. Ingram is a 1st round talent. We got 2 first round talents this year, as opposed to one this year and one next year. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Plus we still have two 3rd round picks left this year.
I just want more depth at running back. We can't have what happened last year happen again. I know Ingram has had injuries too, but the more guys you have, the less likely you get as depleted in the backfield as last year.
The Saints must really, really like Ingram. If that's the case, the only thing we can do is let it all play out and see how things go in the backfield the next couple of years.
Yea, I posted this on the Saints Board too.
No matter what, we added depth to the backfield next year. Ingram is a 1st round talent. We got 2 first round talents this year, as opposed to one this year and one next year. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Plus we still have two 3rd round picks left this year.
I just want more depth at running back. We can't have what happened last year happen again. I know Ingram has had injuries too, but the more guys you have, the less likely you get as depleted in the backfield as last year.
The Saints must really, really like Ingram. If that's the case, the only thing we can do is let it all play out and see how things go in the backfield the next couple of years.
Yea, I posted this on the Saints Board too.
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:54 pm to OBUDan
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Product of his system... right place, right time. He played well.
What is not to like about his game though? Basically a more elusive Peyton Hillis.
I'm not a Saintard btw, just so you know. I'm half cowboys, half saints fan. :ducks:
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a good number
Name them.
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there is no such thing as a "franchise RB" anymore
10 of the top 15 leading rushers last year were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. Jamaal Charles was also an early 3rd round pick.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:54 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I'm sorry man but that is just stupid. You can't have the "this is a weak RB class" argument and "could have waited till later" argument too. If so, then name me the 5th round RB with Ingrams talent.
I can tell you one but I have to wait until Green Bay drafts him before I know who he is.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:57 pm to BayouBengals03
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BayouBengals03
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:57 pm to heatom2
my friend works out with MI everyday
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:58 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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What is not to like about his game though?
I just don't think he's a standout in any way.
He's a very, very solid collegiate back. But I think you can find a ton of guys like him all throughout the draft... and I think a lot of the guys in this draft will equal his NFL production.
I know most people love him though... and I can see why... I'm just personally not a fan of his game (but he's a great, great dude).
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:00 pm to StrongSafety
I am thinking that Reggie Bush leaves after this next season. He's overpriced and really has not produced that well considered what he is getting paid. The other thing we need to wait for is what trades will ultimately occur in free agency. I think we did pretty damned good.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:01 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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half cowboys
God damn it.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:03 pm to ZTiger87
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10 of the top 15 leading rushers last year were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. Jamaal Charles was also an early 3rd round pick.
Guys like to say "wait wait to pick a RB" because you see Peyton Hillis and Arian Foster break out fairly often. But there are also ALOT more duds in the later rounds. The success rate of first and second round RB's, as your stat shows, is typically better. Sometimes you can't wait, especially in a class like this,because you don't know what your getting that late.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:03 pm to ZTiger87
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10 of the top 15 leading rushers last year were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round
how many are "franchise RBs"
?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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10 of the top 15 leading rushers last year were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round
how many are "franchise RBs"
even if that is the case, Mark Ingram is NOT a 1st round or 2nd round RB.
He is a 1st round AND a 2nd round RB
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:14 pm to jacks40
2010 NFL Rushing Yard Leaders
1. Arian Foster-Undrafted
2. Jamaal Charles-3rd Round
3. Michael Turner-5th Round
4. Chris Johnson-1st Round
5. Maurice Jones-Drew-2nd Round
6. Andrian Peterson-1st Round
7. Rashard Mendenhall-1st Round
8. Steven Jackson-1st Round
9. Ahmad Bradshaw-7th Round
10. Ray Rice-2nd Round
1. Arian Foster-Undrafted
2. Jamaal Charles-3rd Round
3. Michael Turner-5th Round
4. Chris Johnson-1st Round
5. Maurice Jones-Drew-2nd Round
6. Andrian Peterson-1st Round
7. Rashard Mendenhall-1st Round
8. Steven Jackson-1st Round
9. Ahmad Bradshaw-7th Round
10. Ray Rice-2nd Round
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:18 pm to BayouBengals03
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but who knows what the plans are for Bush. That's what I am waiting to see next.
bush is not a real piece in our running game, so i doubt he has any effect on anything to do with ingram
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The Saints must really, really like Ingram.
remember, they tried the same shite with beanie wells
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:18 pm to ZTiger87
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10 of the top 15 leading rushers last year were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round.
and there are maybe 3 franchise backs
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:21 pm to CerealKilla
11. Hillis - 7th
12. McFadden - 1st
13. Benson - 1st
14. McCoy - 2nd
15. Forte - 2nd
In 2009 9 of of the top 10 leading rushers were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. 14 of the top 16 rushers were drafted in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounds.
12. McFadden - 1st
13. Benson - 1st
14. McCoy - 2nd
15. Forte - 2nd
In 2009 9 of of the top 10 leading rushers were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. 14 of the top 16 rushers were drafted in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounds.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and there are maybe 3 franchise backs
Who cares about the title of "franchise back".
If Mark Ingrzm can produce like a Ray Rice then everyone's going to be happy. Obviously that's what the Saints think he can do. But apparently y'all know better and think we should have waited and picked up Steven Ridley because he's the guy that's going to create a balanced offense for the Saints.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:26 pm to ZTiger87
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In 2009 9 of of the top 10 leading rushers were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. 14 of the top 16 rushers were drafted in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounds.
are you counting 1st and 2nd round RBs who ended up on other teams as 1st and 2nd round RBs for this argument?
like in 2009, you're counting thomas jones as a "1st round RB" ?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:26 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Ingram may very well be the best overall back on the Saints roster. Considering what that could do for our offense, it's well worth it.
Of course, we could argue about this til' Jesus comes back but it won't change the pick.
Of course, we could argue about this til' Jesus comes back but it won't change the pick.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and there are maybe 3 franchise backs
Peterson, Johnson, MJD, Jackson, Mendenhall and Rice. Charles if you count 3rd round backs. McFadden and McCoy if they have repeat years.
Regardless, if you want a top RB then you should draft them in the 1st or 2nd round. That is what history has shown and that is still the case today.
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