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re: The meltdown over the Bengals/Raiders call is ridiculous

Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:09 pm to
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The officials didn’t follow the rule


Good.

A misapplication of the rule negated a horrible mistake by the official blowing the whistle, wrongdoings were offset.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 10:11 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:10 pm to
Roger, you’re a shite poster, and I’m drunk, but you’re right.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33434 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:44 am to
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I’m drunk, but you’re right.
no he’s roger
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19192 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 5:44 am to
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The media and internet is upset because it went against the Raiders who they see as their wholesome champions fighting for good after firing the evil Jon Gruden.


This
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35467 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 6:19 am to
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A misapplication of the rule negated a horrible mistake


But it's not. Its the rule...clear. A misapplication of the rule was the enforcement of the Tuck Rule which was never intended to apply or stretch to the ruling in that game. Tuck rule had never been enforced and didnt even apply to that situation. See the Committee notes on the creation of that rule. The whistle rule is cut and dried. Are we just now picking and choosing what rules to enforce based on if the Raiders are playing?
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 6:24 am
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5505 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 6:28 am to
Don't have a dog in this fight, watched it again this morning and the ball was 9 yards from the receiver when the whistle blew.

Did Moehrig hear it and slow up trying to get to the ball? Haven't seen him say anything about it but there was another Raiders DB gesturing to the ref immediately after the play like he heard the whistle and thought the play was dead. I know I heard it real time and knew it was early.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94956 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 6:33 am to
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Don't have a dog in this fight, watched it again this morning and the ball was 9 yards from the receiver when the whistle blew.

The whistle blows a split second before it hits the receivers hands. Not a single player had time to react to that whistle
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5505 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 6:39 am to
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The whistle blows a split second before it hits the receivers hands. Not a single player had time to react to that whistle


The ball had just crossed the goal line when it blew so 8-9 yards away.

Youtube
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35467 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 6:40 am to
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Rule 7, Section 2, Article 1 of the NFL rulebook. Part of the rule states that "when an official sounds his whistle erroneously while the ball is still in play, the ball becomes dead immediately."


You can't get more cut and dried than that. Tons of other teams have been screwed over an erroneous whistle. Why should the Bengals get a pass and other teams had to play by the rules for decades?
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3510 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:06 am to
The ball was within 6’ of the receiver when the whistle went off and there wasn’t any defender that could’ve made a play on the ball or the receiver. Had it been right when it left Burrow’s hand I could understand but that wasn’t even remotely close to the case
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 7:12 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48889 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:13 am to
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By rule play stops on whistle


Spearing an intended receiver helmet to helmet with the ball in the air is pass interference and a personal foul isn't it.

But this is the NFL and the crew interprets and makes up the rules as they see fit.

Am I wrong?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48889 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:14 am to
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Why should the Bengals get a pass and other teams had to play by the rules for decades?




Now let's do the Rams/Saints game......
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5505 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:20 am to
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The ball was within 6’ of the receiver when the whistle went off and there wasn’t any defender that could’ve made a play on the ball or the receiver. Had it been right when it left Burrow’s hand I could understand but that wasn’t even remotely close to the case

Watch the video I linked above. The ball was 8-9 yards, so 24-27 feet, from the receiver when the whistle blew.

It was an incredible play by Joe but at least one DB obviously heard the early whistle. Did it make a difference, who knows, but it was clearly early.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94956 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:07 am to
Dude Superman couldn’t have reacted to that whistle
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33873 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:12 am to
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The ball was 8-9 yards, so 24-27 feet, from the receiver when the whistle blew.



You keep repeating this, but it means nothing in context. How fast/how many many feet per second was that ball traveling at the time?

No player reacted to that whistle and slowed up/didn’t try to make a play. The hands up confusion could have been for coverage assignments, annoyance at teammates, etc.
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4306 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:30 am to
The Raiders got a similarly favorable call later in the game when they motioned for timeout but the play was run. The result of that play was a roughly 30 yard Bengals gain to the 6 yard line, so it all worked out in the end.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20982 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:32 am to
As Tenn found out, the whistle does not matter it’s the judgement of the refs that does matter.

Based on what I saw the call was wrong on purpose to produce the correct result.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12404 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:38 am to
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Don't have a dog in this fight


Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:57 am to
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The media and internet is upset because it went against the Raiders who they see as their wholesome champions fighting for good after firing the evil Jon Gruden


Haha, ok.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30134 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 10:23 am to
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The rule is clear. The officials didn’t follow the rule and it was the difference in the game. No argument otherwise.


Actually there is an argument. It's not like the play is dead next down. The down is replayed. Taking more time off the clock. That could have resulted in a TD. Possibly after several more plays since only 4 yards was need for a first down.

Without question the two more plays would have taken more than 13 seconds and likely resulted in at lest 3 points and the Raiders TD, which occurred with 13 seconds left in the half, does not occur.

So you could make the case that the call actually benefited the Raider. Instead of it being 20-13 at half it is likely to be 16-6 or 20-6.

See how this conjecture thing works? And I would say mine is at least as logical, if not more, than your assertion that it was the difference in the game.
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