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re: The Eyes of Texas is dead

Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:39 pm to
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Is it a coincidence that all of this "woke" stuff started after college student bodies became mostly comprised of Zoomers?



So we should respect the "traditions" of an old racist/ segregated student body , but disrespect the opinions of a more modern diverse one?

".....now , tomorrow , forever.... ".
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:40 pm to
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So we should respect the "traditions" of an old racist/ segregated student body
Football is also a tradition started under that segregated student body

So, I can only assume since you a consistent honorable man you are fighting to cancel that as well. If not, I can only assume, like you say, you are for "segregation now, segregation tomorrow....."
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:50 pm to
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Football is also a tradition started under that segregated student body


Not to mention the universities themselves.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94906 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Not to mention the universities themselves.
Not to mention every tradition from every country

Newsflash, back in the day, people hated anyone and everyone different than themselves

Every countries traditions were founded by people who hated everyone else. That is for every race and creed
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:53 pm to
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Simple yes or no do you agree this particular instance is ridiculous?

Logically speaking, anyone against the song for the reasoning being used should also be against clothes, food, shelter, water etc etc


I'm for the students choosing their traditions & not being stuck " now, tomorrow , forever" with the bigoted traditions of students past.

Allow the students to sort this out.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94906 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:57 pm to
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I'm for the students choosing their traditions & not being stuck " now, tomorrow , forever" with the bigoted traditions of students past. Allow the students to sort this out.
Please explain

Once again, I ask as a privileged white man like myself to have this honest conversation with you. I want to do my part

Why is this song bigoted and racist? I want to further teach white men like myself why this is wrong
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 3:57 pm
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:11 pm to
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Football is also a tradition started under that segregated student body

So, I can only assume since you a consistent honorable man you are fighting to cancel that as well. If not, I can only assume, like you say, you are for "segregation now, segregation tomorrow....."




Football has changed IMMENSELY since 1905 Pride. I'm not canceling fight songs ,but changing or updating them should be considered a positive.

We could always return to early 1900's/ pre forward pass when student athletes were routinely killed on the field. People were mocked then for wanting to dismantle the old rules & change the great game of football.


Sissies like Teddy Roosevelt killed old Football traditions ,I guess.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:21 pm to
The song is about working on the railroad...which refers to a chain gang...which prefers to prison...which is racist.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8597 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:24 pm to
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another nail in the coffin for UT football.


change that to another nail in the coffin for the UT band. and you might get the state of Texas to support it.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:24 pm to
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Football is also a tradition started under that segregated student body

Do you want me to go over the drastic rule changes in Football since then? The ones many thought would ruin the game, but actually improved it?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:25 pm to
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opinions


Exactly
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23022 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:27 pm to
UT should cancel the whole band. Let’s these idiots be the reason.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:32 pm to
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That’s the third time you’ve tried engaging him. It’s very obvious he’s just a troll

Nobody could be that much of a pussy. Except lsu1992 or whatever her name is


Calm down. I answered your little friend. Hope you got bonus points tonight with him.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 4:37 pm
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:33 pm to
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I'm for the students choosing their traditions & not being stuck " now, tomorrow , forever" with the bigoted traditions of students past.


Like it or not those “bigoted” students of the past keep pumping money into the school.
Posted by DawgHorns
Member since Dec 2017
277 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:53 pm to
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So we should respect the "traditions" of an old racist/ segregated student body , but disrespect the opinions of a more modern diverse one?

".....now , tomorrow , forever.... ".

"modern and diverse". Zoomers have more neo nazis than any generation since the 40s. Even the "good" zoomers corrupt the fight against racism by changing the definition of what counts as bigotry weekly, using callouts for online clout and social gain.
This song was never an issue with the black alumni. It was never an issue at all until a few months ago. How can you expect people to believe that this is a real issue? C'mon man.

Zoomers as a group are extremely vulnerable to mob mentality. I think its because almost all of them are super active online and anyone of their friends could decide to call them out for saying something out of turn. Theres no thinking about things, people just want to make sure they don't fall out favor with their peers. Not only that, but a lot of them have serious issues paying attention and processing information. Everyone seems to have an anxiety disorder too. I have a feeling the reason why is going to be similar to the lead paint poisoning phenomenon. Tons of kids have had their eyes glued to a screen since they could walk. Its just speculation at this point, but when scientists study how hours and hours of online activity affects the brain development of teens and pre teens, you will have the answer to why your generation's lives turned out to be so terrible.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 5:54 pm
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:13 pm to
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This song was never an issue with the black alumni. It was never an issue at all until a few months ago. How can you expect people to believe that this is a real issue? C'mon man.

Nope.

" About a decade ago , a group of Texas Basketball players refused to sing it .....and just two years ago ,the Texas Student government debated the merits of the song- but now that the monuments to the US racist history are toppling around the country ,this call has been REinvigorated "- Joe Levin Texas Monthly / 6/17/2020


This didn't being a few months ago.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8539 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:34 pm to
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Allow the students to sort this out.


News flash, the university doesn't belong to the students. I've heard this argument many times, it's their school".

Wrong.

The school belongs to the students, the alumni, and to future students. Current students are simply a temporary caretaker. They're doing a shitty job at it too.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:39 pm to
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uhhhhh A&M would be the last place in the world for something like this and UT would absolutely be first in line


Not with who is in charge over there currently. Although he’s getting the boot soon.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103468 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:42 pm to
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We expect that pussy stuff from the Aggies. Not UT. For shame
UT is in Austin. I would definitely expect this.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94906 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:45 pm to
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sugar71
You still have yet to give me a single reason this is a song based in racism and bigotry

Help me man I’m trying to have an honest conversation
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