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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:25 pm to RollTide1987
LSU is in over overrated Texas.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:45 pm to RollTide1987
by that criteria Navy and Army should be on the list
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:56 pm to VABuckeye
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Draft picks are mythical.
Say what?
Its no surprise that the NFL has a hand in deciding the bluebloods.
That success in College transfers to the NFL, draft picks, players on rosters spanning at least 50 years...highlighted by HOFers...
1. USC (11 HOFers)
2. Notre Dame (10 HOFers)
3. Ohio State (9 HOFers)
4. Michigan (8 HOFers)
Surprise is Pitt with 8.
6. Alabama (7 HOFers) tied with Syracuse. (And we all know it should be 6. Looking at you Broadway.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 12:05 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 7:44 am to CelticDog
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texas high school football was big for Nebraska and now not so much.
You must not be too familiar with Matt Rhule
Posted on 1/28/23 at 7:46 am to kajunman
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Nope on Michigan, Texas and Nebraska.
Get ND out too.
It's not 1988.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 7:48 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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nobody can touch Oklahoma for historical sustained success
The Sooners sucked pretty much throughout the entire decade of the 90s... people were saying the same thing about them then that they are currently saying about Nebraska
In the mid-90s Nebraska beat OU in back-to-back-to-back seasons by a combined score of 179-28
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 7:51 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 7:54 am to Thundercracker
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The Sooners sucked pretty much throughout the entire decade of the 90s... people were saying the same thing about them then that they are currently saying about Nebraska
Nebraska’s period of suckage has been much longer. They really have not been a contender for 20 years.
Oklahoma was bad in the ‘90s but that period was sandwiched between the highly successful Switzer and Stoops eras.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:09 am to Thundercracker
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The Sooners sucked pretty much throughout the entire decade of the 90s... people were saying the same thing about them then that they are currently saying about Nebraska In the mid-90s Nebraska beat OU in back-to-back-to-back seasons by a combined score of 179-28
Revisionist history lacking any context. And also untrue in comparison of failure.
Oklahoma received a harsh probation in 89-90 that set them back a decade. Bowl and TV bans, scholarship reductions, loss of significant conference revenue sharing, etc. unsurprisingly, much of Nebraska’s national success was earned during this time, with 3/5 of their titles happening then.
Oklahoma had 3 total losing seasons in that decade and finished ranked twice. They then won a national championship 10 years after the probation.
Nebraska’s last 20 years is a nearly unbelievable period of ineptitude considering all their programs national success happened in the 30 years preceding it. 0 AP top 10 finishes, 9 losing seasons, just 3 consensus AA, and not a single major bowl invitation.
A decade ago, Nebraska received their programs biggest financial windfall in their history with joining the Big Ten. 8 years ago, they were placed in the weakest division in CFB. Since then, they’re 26-34 in league play and they just finished their 6th straight losing season and are ranked 86th in total wins over the last decade.
They are the only Power 5 football program to not play in a bowl game since 2017.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:30 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:28 am to Globetrotter747
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Nebraska’s period of suckage has been much longer. They really have not been a contender for 20 years.
Were VERY close to winning the conference championship w/ Suh in the game where he manhandled Texas
As I stated before, comparative to the rest of the history, yes they have sucked immensely... but they had a 9-win season as recently as 2016. Bo Pelini had a relatively successful run winning 9+ games every season he was there. They didn't totally suck until Riley's final season and Frost's deplorable run.
I find it odd that The Third Leg points out that OU finished "ranked" twice during the 90s, yet is quick to point out that Nebraska specifically hasn't finished ranked Top 10 over the past 20 years. However, they DID finished ranked 7 times during that span, including several 9-win seasons and a 10-win season and a bowl win over Georgia in 2012. Don't get me wrong: Nebraska currently is as low as they've ever been, but it's not for as long or as terrible as you're making it out to be.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:36 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:32 am to Thundercracker
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I find it odd that The Third Leg points out that OU finished "ranked" twice during the 90s, yet is quick to point out that Nebraska specifically hasn't finished ranked Top 10 over the past 20 years.
Because Oklahoma received a program crushing series of sanctions that set them back a good decade, and still finished ranked. Meanwhile, Nebraska has received the biggest financial windfall in their history and has gone on to become a bottom feeder in the weakest division in power 5 football.
Nebraska last 20 years. Find me a similar stretch for any of these 8 programs.
Head coaches: 6
Major Bowl Invitations: 0
AP preseason Top 25 Rankings: 10
Final AP Top 10 Teams: 0
Seasons w/losing record: 9
Bowl Record: 6-8
Best Bowl Wins: Alamo / Holiday / Gator
Consensus AA: 3
First Round Draft Picks: 4
They’ve only finished ranked 7 times in 20 years; 4 of those rankings were 23-25. They haven’t finished ranked since 2013.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:44 am to The Third Leg
OU 1990-99:
Head coaches: 4
Major Bowl Invitations: 0
AP preseason Top 25 Rankings: 1
Final AP Top 10 Teams: 0
Seasons w/losing record: 3 (two seasons finished .500)
Bowl Record: 2-2
Best Bowl Wins: Gator/Sun
Consensus AA: 0
First Round Draft Picks: 1
Pretty comparable - if not worse - I'd say. OU's record during that period is worse than any 10-year span for Nebraska.
Head coaches: 4
Major Bowl Invitations: 0
AP preseason Top 25 Rankings: 1
Final AP Top 10 Teams: 0
Seasons w/losing record: 3 (two seasons finished .500)
Bowl Record: 2-2
Best Bowl Wins: Gator/Sun
Consensus AA: 0
First Round Draft Picks: 1
Pretty comparable - if not worse - I'd say. OU's record during that period is worse than any 10-year span for Nebraska.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:47 am to Thundercracker
That's only 1 decade though. And Nebraska football has never been sanctioned during the past 20+ years.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:49 am to Thundercracker
The fact that you think that is possibly worse than the 20 year run Nebraska is on, given the probation, and fact that they won a national title in 1999 tells me you want the stats to tell a story that they do not.
Nebraska has had 6 straight losing seasons and after next year will have gone an entire decade unranked in final AP poll. They are the only program in power 5 to not play in a bowl game since 2017.
They have zero consensus AA or 1st round draft picks since joining the Big Ten-the only Big Ten West Program that can lay claim to such a distinction.
Nebraska has had 6 straight losing seasons and after next year will have gone an entire decade unranked in final AP poll. They are the only program in power 5 to not play in a bowl game since 2017.
They have zero consensus AA or 1st round draft picks since joining the Big Ten-the only Big Ten West Program that can lay claim to such a distinction.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:54 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:58 am to The Third Leg
Again, I reiterate it's not "20 years" as you suggest, but more like 6 years.
They had a couple losing seasons sprinkled in, but for the most part they were pretty solid.
They had a couple losing seasons sprinkled in, but for the most part they were pretty solid.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:59 am to GoGators1995
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That's only 1 decade though
Nebraska hasn't started truly sucking until 2017 - less than a decade
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And Nebraska football has never been sanctioned during the past 20+ years
They hired Scott Frost - same difference
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 10:02 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:03 am to Thundercracker
Yes ok, but that’s not good enough for a team of the history that Nebraska has
Now, a team like northwestern and Illinois or Indiana would give anything for a 14 year run like that….
Now, a team like northwestern and Illinois or Indiana would give anything for a 14 year run like that….
Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:05 am to The Third Leg
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Iowa Fan
Bro ya'll lost to Mickey Joseph-coached Nebraska... your opinion is null and void
Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:06 am to dukke v
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Yes ok, but that’s not good enough for a team of the history that Nebraska has
I agree - just saying that it's nowhere near as bad as he's making it out to be, and that OU's 90s run is just as bad (if not worse) as the past decade for Nebraska
I don't understand why he's going back 20 years... during that first decade span they had four 10-win seasons
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:09 am to Thundercracker
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Again, I reiterate it's not "20 years" as you suggest, but more like 6 years.
Um, what have I listed here about their last 20 seasons that is untrue?
-They haven’t been to a major bowl.
-They have 3 consensus AA and 4 first round picks in 20 seasons, zero since joining the big ten.
-they have zero top 10 finishes in 20 seasons
None of these other programs in this blue blood conversation has had such a period of mediocre to bad results. Sure they’ve had some winning teams, But they’ve been nationally irrelevant for 20 years straight.
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