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re: the Big Three = The Easy Route?

Posted on 5/15/11 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 5/15/11 at 11:05 pm to


Way to talk shite after 1 game. Pretty smart.
Posted by LSU Shreddin
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Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:42 am to
"In the regular season it was unquestionably Tyson"

Agree to disagree. I would argue that Terry, Butler, and Marion were all better than Chandler in the regular season.

Chandler can definetly hit the boards and block shots, but he has virtually creates no offense on his own. He has barely and post moves and no range. His offense is created only because other Mavs break down the offense.

But, we all have our opinions.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:44 am to
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Tyson is nowhere near the 2nd best player on that squad.


Tyson has been the difference-maker for the Mavs this year.
Posted by LSU Shreddin
Denver
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Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:49 am to
I'm not arguing that. He makes them better with what he brings to that team. I just wouldn't ever consider him the 2nd best player on that squad. Like I said, just an opinion though.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:51 am to
Dirk is the Mavs 1st and 2nd best player.

He accounts for both.
Posted by LSU Shreddin
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Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:53 am to
That I can agree on.

A 7' draining fade away jumpers is what I call, unstoppable.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 5/18/11 at 10:10 pm to
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So after tonight is the "Big 3" still on? Or shall we now call them "Bosh and his crew of flunkies"?


You were saying?
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 12:04 am to
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So after tonight is the "Big 3" still on? Or shall we now call them "Bosh and his crew of flunkies"?

Awesome.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 12:47 am to
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You were saying?


Just because he didn't score 30 doesn't mean he didn't have a good game. He had the highest +/- and played great defense.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 5/19/11 at 12:53 am to
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Just because he didn't score 30 doesn't mean he didn't have a good game. He had the highest +/- and played great defense


The comment was more to bash Bron/Wade.

Also, +/-, really?

Joel Anthony and Mike Bibby had a higher +/- than Lebron, so that about sums that up.



There's really no way to watch that game and come away thinking Bosh actually had a good game. He was very quiet. Got his standard 8 boards, again didn't do a great job of keeping Chicago's bigs off the boards. Just a quiet night for Bosh.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 6:19 pm to
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There's really no way to watch that game and come away thinking Bosh actually had a good game. He was very quiet. Got his standard 8 boards, again didn't do a great job of keeping Chicago's bigs off the boards. Just a quiet night for Bosh.




Noah, Boozer and Gibson had 30 boards in game 1. They only had 17 boards in game 2. Bosh shot the ball less because Lebron and Wade didn't get him the ball. And again, he played great defense. So maybe it was a quiet night, but he played really well.

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Also, +/-, really?


Yes +/-. People look at Haslem and say "omg what a great game!" He had a good 5-6 minutes and then was on the court for 10-15 minutes longer than he should have been. When he was on the court the Bulls could actually score. When Anthony and Bosh were on the court the Bulls had a really hard time scoring. This is what the +/- actually reflects.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 7:06 pm to
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Noah, Boozer and Gibson had 30 boards in game 1. They only had 17 boards in game 2.


Boozer and Noah had 9 offensive boards and Chicago and 17 offensive boards, only 2 less than in game 1.

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Yes +/-. People look at Haslem and say "omg what a great game!" He had a good 5-6 minutes and then was on the court for 10-15 minutes longer than he should have been. When he was on the court the Bulls could actually score. When Anthony and Bosh were on the court the Bulls had a really hard time scoring. This is what the +/- actually reflects.


So what is the reflection on Lebron being +8 and Bibby and Anthony each being +16.

How do you explain that away? Did those 2 have more of an impact on the game than lebron?
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:20 pm to
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Boozer and Noah had 9 offensive boards and Chicago and 17 offensive boards, only 2 less than in game 1.


Almost half of those offensive rebounds came in the 1st quarter. The Bulls also missed a lot more shots so there were more opportunities for offensive rebounds, yet they ended up with fewer boards.

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How do you explain that away? Did those 2 have more of an impact on the game than lebron?


Lebron played all but 2 minutes of the game. He played the most minutes with the bench so his +/- suffered. The Heat's starting lineup destroyed Chicago's. Bosh and Anthony's interior defense was a big reason for that.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/22/11 at 9:54 pm to
quote:


quote:

So after tonight is the "Big 3" still on? Or shall we now call them "Bosh and his crew of flunkies"?


Awesome.


So after tonight is the "Big 3" still on? Or shall we now call them "Bosh and his crew of flunkies"?
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36601 posts
Posted on 5/22/11 at 10:01 pm to
can you not post about lebron anymore? all you do is post retarded stuff to annoy people

20 points (46% shooting)
10 assists
6 boards
with a pair of steals/blocks

what an off night

idiot
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60191 posts
Posted on 5/22/11 at 10:04 pm to
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20 points (46% shooting)
10 assists
6 boards
with a pair of steals/blocks

what an off night

idiot


You post like a 12 year old on a play ground fwiw, I am merely responding to the fact that Bosh has been getting slammed in this thread while people are calling the "Big 3" the "Big 2", and he turned around and has been playing the best by far of the three.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36601 posts
Posted on 5/22/11 at 10:06 pm to
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You post like a 12 year old on a play ground fwiw
i'm sure i can't come off as stupid as you do
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60191 posts
Posted on 5/22/11 at 10:07 pm to
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i'm sure i can't come off as stupid as you do


exhibit B
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36601 posts
Posted on 5/22/11 at 10:09 pm to
i forgot to capitalize and punctuate again? damn
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/22/11 at 10:10 pm to
It's amazing how much Bosh gets slammed on this board. Just last year, the majority of the MSB was saying he was the best PF in the league. I know I took crap for saying that I'd rather have Pau, Dirk, and Aldrige.

Saying that, he's still a great player. I don't know why people were expecting him to be Shaq, but he's played really well and doesn't get the credit he deserves. He would be putting up over 20 and 10 for most teams.
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