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Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:17 pm to LSUsmartass
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Durbin got off to a shitty start, he has been solid his last 9 outings
More like he's had 7 solid performances mixed in with two crappy ones. Giving up 3 base runners against the Mets isn't solid, and he got smacked around versus the Pirates. His ERA over the past week is 4.91. You can't just cherry pick outings, anyone looks good if you take out their worst 3-4 outings.
The fact is Durbin has been a very bad pitcher over his career (a 5.12 career ERA in almost 800 IP doesn;t happen by accident), and his poor results this year are just more of the same. Even the worst pitchers are going to have strings of decent outings every now and then. Durbin is just like Proctor last year, a crappy reliever that shouldn't be on the roster. Fredi's using him too much is just stupid, Durbin should be a second mop up guy/last guy out of the bullpen.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:21 pm to auyushu
Exactly.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:21 pm to okietiger
I think the nats are for real too. I said before the season they are atlantas main competition for the division. Im just not sure how they will respond when they have a bit of a losing streak. I'm not sure if they have enough veteran leadership to lead them through those rough times.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:28 pm to auyushu
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The fact is Durbin has been a very bad pitcher over his career (a 5.12 career ERA in almost 800 IP doesn;t happen by accident), and his poor results this year are just more of the same. Even the worst pitchers are going to have strings of decent outings every now and then. Durbin is just like Proctor last year, a crappy reliever that shouldn't be on the roster. Fredi's using him too much is just stupid, Durbin should be a second mop up guy/last guy out of the bullpen.
Right. He is what he is. This isn't a guy who has been crap for 2 or 3 years and might have just had the light come on or something. He has been in the majors for over a decade and has been the very definition of a below average pitcher during that time. The fact that he is on pace to pitch 60 innings out of one of the best bullpens in the league is ridiculous.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:30 pm to Robot Santa
Can't wait for the rebuttle after those 2 posts.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:50 pm to okietiger
Let me guess, y'all are the same moron blasting Fredi and Bobby for overworking 2-3 relievers in years past. But now we have a guy giving everybody work, the bitching continues. I understand the frustration. It's much easier to blame the coach instead of the players getting paid millions, ala last year's collapse.
Serious question because I really have no idea, but how many games exactly has the use of Durbin cost us a guaranteed win?
Serious question because I really have no idea, but how many games exactly has the use of Durbin cost us a guaranteed win?
This post was edited on 5/5/12 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 5/5/12 at 5:42 pm to Dale Murphy
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Serious question because I really have no idea, but how many games exactly has the use of Durbin cost us a guarantees win?
Because there is no way to prove what impact the decisions have on the overall games with a certainty it makes it okay to make poor decisions? That's simply being obtuse. Putting your worst reliever in the game in high leverage situations is just plain poor managing. There is a middle ground between overusing our best relievers like we did last year and using every pitcher in the pen in key spots like Fredi is doing this year.
Bobby did have many of the same bullpen issues Fredi does, but Bobby made up for it by being an excellent manager in other ways. Fredi hasn't shown anything that will make up for his weaknesses yet (outside of the willingness to make lineup changes Smartass mentioned).
While you are very much right that the players bear the brunt of the blame for our complete collapse last year, Fredi's mismanagement of the bullpen and the resulting fatigue definitely played a large role as well. Usually I don't think you can point to a manager costing or winning games for a club too often, but Frdi definitely cost us 3-4 games last year due to poor decisions.
This year I don't think he's cost us any games, though he did make decisions that kept us from getting back into games. Pitching Durbin against the Mets in the second game of the year in a 3-2 ball game in the 7th inning was beyond bizarre, and made a 1 run game into a 2 run game. You can small ball 1 run fairly easily, 2 runs is more difficult. The same happened when he pitched Hernandez and Durbin in our first Astros game, a close game became a blowout. It's impossible to say what would happen if he wasn't pitching our two worst pitchers more than our best during the first 3-4 games, but it's odd managing to say the least.
In fairness Fredi stopped doing that for the most part after that until just recently, when he's been throwing Durbin back in there in tight spots/close games. I personally don't expect any manager to be close to perfect, but I do want their strengths to outweigh their weaknesses. So far Fredi's weaknesses by far outweigh any minor strengths he's shown.
This post was edited on 5/5/12 at 5:47 pm
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