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re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition

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Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:50 pm to
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The #Braves told one American League team that if they want Evan Gattis, they have to take BJ Upton too.


Likely the Rangers. They didn't want to include a top pitching prospect so were like thennnnn, you gotta take on BJ.
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:20 pm to
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Had a terrible 2014, but another signing of a low strikeout guy.

Continuing to change the offensive mindset of this team.



You don't always have to be a sunshine pumper for the Barves, Swamps. It's ok to disagree with Hart every once in a while.

Callaspo is awful. Let's not try to polish a turd here.
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:23 pm to
If BJ gets his head on straight, and lights a fire under his arse...him coming around could be the largest boost to the Braves no matter who they sign
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:26 pm to
He had a decent 2013 season. But you act like this signing is going to make a big difference either way. He'll be a fine stop gap for a few months till Peraza is up.

Who did you want to sign?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:27 pm to
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HarrisNye: Its weird how the braves new regime keeps signing guys who exemplify why not striking out isn't worth that much in and of itself


Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:31 pm to
MAkes sense to me. I'm tired of watching 10+ strikeout games. Its not like loading the roster with high K guys was working for us. we're probably gonna suck anyways next year, so I rather watch contact over K's
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:33 pm to
Thanks, Vol.

Who did I want the Braves to sign? Someone better than Callaspo I guess. I don't see how Callaspo helps.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:34 pm to
Any 1 year stop gap at a shallow position that could be had for cheap wasn't going to impress you. Let's be honest.
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:34 pm to
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MAkes sense to me. I'm tired of watching 10+ strikeout games. Its not like loading the roster with high K guys was working for us. we're probably gonna suck anyways next year, so I rather watch contact over K's


So you are fine with a .230/.290/.290 slash line as long as he doesn't k a lot?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:34 pm to
The problem was not strikeouts. It was that we had too many bad hitters and did not draw walks.

We led the league in OPS for the first half of 2013 while we were on pace to break the MLB record for strikeouts.

Then Fredi said we needed to start "making contact" because leading the league in OPS wasn't going to be good enough for the playoffs, I guess.
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:35 pm to
Dude, he's awful.

I'd rather Gosselin start until Peraza gets the call than pay anything for Callaspo.
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:36 pm to
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Its weird how the braves new regime keeps signing guys who exemplify why not striking out isn't worth that much in and of itself


quote:

Makes sense to me


It does? I have read this sentence about 5 times and still am not sure I understand what it means
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:39 pm to
And Gosselin certainly might. But a Callaspo signing does not hurt this team, whether you want to believe it or not. He can play multiple positions and will be a decent player off the bench.

I think you guys love to bitch just for the sake of bitching.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:39 pm to
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So you are fine with a .230/.290/.290 slash line as long as he doesn't k a lot?



thats not what I said...I was just saying I understand why they would want to get rid of high K guys like CJ, BJ, etc.
Posted by Doldil
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:41 pm to
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It does? I have read this sentence about 5 times and still am not sure I understand what it means



It means shitty hitters are still shitty hitters whether they strike out or make contact and get out (but don't take my word for it, I was always wrong when I had to interpret poetry and shite for language arts class)
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
24900 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:43 pm to
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It means shitty hitters are still shitty hitters whether they strike out or make contact and get out (but don't take my word for it, I was always wrong when I had to interpret poetry and shite for language arts class)



I guess its like Paradise lost, makes more sense reading it when someone tells you what it means.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:43 pm to
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We led the league in OPS for the first half of 2013 while we were on pace to break the MLB record for strikeouts.

Then Fredi said we needed to start "making contact" because leading the league in OPS wasn't going to be good enough for the playoffs, I guess.



So you think Fredi's quote through off everyone's mojo?
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:45 pm to
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I think you guys love to bitch just for the sake of bitching.



I bitch mostly because I hate the direction of this team so far. It isn't just to bitch. If you want me to get excited over adding arguably the worst hitter in the league last year and the worst rp in the league last year, then I'm not your guy.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:46 pm to
No. I think Walker/Fletcher were instructed to preach that weak contact is better than no contact.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:53 pm to
Idk. I think most of roster were just bad hitters, and I don't think it was Walker/Fletch/ or Gonzalez fault.
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