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re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition
Posted on 10/2/11 at 8:56 pm to SwampDonks
Posted on 10/2/11 at 8:56 pm to SwampDonks
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:54 pm to SwampDonks
This is my list of our top 10 prospects from last year's offseason thread(which was only 11 pages), and how they did this year:
1. Julio Teheran(AAA/Majors) - 2.55 ERA/1.18 WHIP in 144 IP in AAA, 7.6 K/9, 3.0 BB/9; 5.03 ERA/1.47 WHIP in 19.2 IP in the majors, 4.6 K/9, 3.7 BB/9
Positives: He threw about 165 innings and remained very durable. Was very successful at the AAA level after barely pitching in AA the year before.
Negatives: You saw his K rate decrease and his walk rate increase, which are two things you don't want.
2. Freddie Freeman(Majors) - hit .282 with a .346 OBP and .795 OPS, 21 homers, 32 doubles, 53 walks, 142 K's
Positives: You have to be impressed with his rookie year and he should be right there at the top of the NL Rookie of the Year voting. Hit .294 since May 1st after getting used to major league pitching. While advanced stats may not show it, he played solid defense and will only improve.
Negatives: Not much to be picky about but it would be nice to see his BB% increase and his K% of 22.4 decrease. This will only get better with experience
3. Arodys Vizcaino(A+, AA, AAA, Majors) - 3.06 ERA/1.13 WHIP in 97 combined IP. 9.3 K/9, 2.6 BB/9.
Positives: The dude went from A ball to the Majors in one season. Very fricking impressive. Had some very good moments in the majors. I was very pleased with the year he had while healthy.
Negatives: Health. He once again was unable to remain healthy throughout a season. He was moved to the bullpen once called up to AAA and while he had very good moments, he also had some struggles but what pitcher that started the year in A ball wouldn't? He will probably remain in that role for the foreseeable future.
4. Randall Delgado(AA, AAA, Majors) - 3.88 ERA/1.38 WHIP in 139 minor league IP to go along with a 8.7 k/9 and 3.7 BB/9. 2.83 ERA/1.23 WHIP in 35 MLB IP with a 4.6 K/9 and 3.6 BB/9.
Positives: Was very impressive at the major league level and provided some solid outings in games when we needed them. Like Teheran, he remained durable as he threw over 170 innings this year.
Negatives: You need to see his WHIP decrease, especially his BB%.
5. Matt Lipka(A, SS) - .247 AVG, .305 OBP, .608 OPS, 1 HR, 21 2B, 28 SB.
Positives: Are there any? He needs to improve
Negatives: Just look at the numbers.
6. Edward Salcedo(A, 3B) - .248 AVG, .315 OBP, .711 OPS, 12 HR, 27 2B, 23 SB, 105 K's, 47 errors
Positives: Improvement. You saw his power numbers rise from the year before.
Negatives: Very Streaky. At one point in the year his numbers were looking very impressive as he was hovering around .290 and a .850 OPS. He ended the year extremely poorly which caused his numbers to drop big time. His defense still hasn't improved like many are expecting quite yet.
7. Andrelton Simmons(A+, SS) - .311 AVG, .351 OBP, .759 OPS, 35 doubles, 26 SB
Positives - He's already an advanced fielder with a cannon for an arm, and he provided an improvement at the plate this year. He's still very raw but I think you'll continue to see his offensive numbers grow. He also doesn't strikeout. I love this kid's game.
Negatives - Needs to draw more walks(only 29 this year). Also needs to work on his baserunning as he can be a plus runner with more work.
8. Carlos Perez(A, LHP) - 4.82 ERA/1.63 WHIP in 125 IP. 7.8 K/9, 4.8 BB/9
Positives: At times, he showed great potential with pretty good stuff.
Negatives: Too many walks and hits allowed. Not consistent. Needs to work on the development of his offspeed pitches.
9. Brett Oberholtzer - TRADED
10. Abraham Espinosa(Rookie ball, RHP) - 2.15 ERA/1.05 WHIP in 58 IP with a 6.9 K/9 and 1.5 BB/9.
Positives: Followed up his first professional season with another good year. Did not allow a single HR. Still looking forward to this kid developing more at the higher levels starting next year.
Negatives: Not much, but he did play his 2nd consecutive year in rookie ball, although he was 17 years old for most of the year. Needs to become more of a strikeout pitcher.
And no, I didn't have Pastornicky in my top 10

1. Julio Teheran(AAA/Majors) - 2.55 ERA/1.18 WHIP in 144 IP in AAA, 7.6 K/9, 3.0 BB/9; 5.03 ERA/1.47 WHIP in 19.2 IP in the majors, 4.6 K/9, 3.7 BB/9
Positives: He threw about 165 innings and remained very durable. Was very successful at the AAA level after barely pitching in AA the year before.
Negatives: You saw his K rate decrease and his walk rate increase, which are two things you don't want.
2. Freddie Freeman(Majors) - hit .282 with a .346 OBP and .795 OPS, 21 homers, 32 doubles, 53 walks, 142 K's
Positives: You have to be impressed with his rookie year and he should be right there at the top of the NL Rookie of the Year voting. Hit .294 since May 1st after getting used to major league pitching. While advanced stats may not show it, he played solid defense and will only improve.
Negatives: Not much to be picky about but it would be nice to see his BB% increase and his K% of 22.4 decrease. This will only get better with experience
3. Arodys Vizcaino(A+, AA, AAA, Majors) - 3.06 ERA/1.13 WHIP in 97 combined IP. 9.3 K/9, 2.6 BB/9.
Positives: The dude went from A ball to the Majors in one season. Very fricking impressive. Had some very good moments in the majors. I was very pleased with the year he had while healthy.
Negatives: Health. He once again was unable to remain healthy throughout a season. He was moved to the bullpen once called up to AAA and while he had very good moments, he also had some struggles but what pitcher that started the year in A ball wouldn't? He will probably remain in that role for the foreseeable future.
4. Randall Delgado(AA, AAA, Majors) - 3.88 ERA/1.38 WHIP in 139 minor league IP to go along with a 8.7 k/9 and 3.7 BB/9. 2.83 ERA/1.23 WHIP in 35 MLB IP with a 4.6 K/9 and 3.6 BB/9.
Positives: Was very impressive at the major league level and provided some solid outings in games when we needed them. Like Teheran, he remained durable as he threw over 170 innings this year.
Negatives: You need to see his WHIP decrease, especially his BB%.
5. Matt Lipka(A, SS) - .247 AVG, .305 OBP, .608 OPS, 1 HR, 21 2B, 28 SB.
Positives: Are there any? He needs to improve
Negatives: Just look at the numbers.
6. Edward Salcedo(A, 3B) - .248 AVG, .315 OBP, .711 OPS, 12 HR, 27 2B, 23 SB, 105 K's, 47 errors
Positives: Improvement. You saw his power numbers rise from the year before.
Negatives: Very Streaky. At one point in the year his numbers were looking very impressive as he was hovering around .290 and a .850 OPS. He ended the year extremely poorly which caused his numbers to drop big time. His defense still hasn't improved like many are expecting quite yet.
7. Andrelton Simmons(A+, SS) - .311 AVG, .351 OBP, .759 OPS, 35 doubles, 26 SB
Positives - He's already an advanced fielder with a cannon for an arm, and he provided an improvement at the plate this year. He's still very raw but I think you'll continue to see his offensive numbers grow. He also doesn't strikeout. I love this kid's game.
Negatives - Needs to draw more walks(only 29 this year). Also needs to work on his baserunning as he can be a plus runner with more work.
8. Carlos Perez(A, LHP) - 4.82 ERA/1.63 WHIP in 125 IP. 7.8 K/9, 4.8 BB/9
Positives: At times, he showed great potential with pretty good stuff.
Negatives: Too many walks and hits allowed. Not consistent. Needs to work on the development of his offspeed pitches.
9. Brett Oberholtzer - TRADED
10. Abraham Espinosa(Rookie ball, RHP) - 2.15 ERA/1.05 WHIP in 58 IP with a 6.9 K/9 and 1.5 BB/9.
Positives: Followed up his first professional season with another good year. Did not allow a single HR. Still looking forward to this kid developing more at the higher levels starting next year.
Negatives: Not much, but he did play his 2nd consecutive year in rookie ball, although he was 17 years old for most of the year. Needs to become more of a strikeout pitcher.
And no, I didn't have Pastornicky in my top 10
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:54 pm to SwampDonks
When is your 2012 top 10 being released?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:07 pm to SwampDonks
quote:
Kevin Seitzer, hitting coach for the Royals
he's another one I was going to throw out.
They had a good offense and Melky and Francoeur had career years under his watch (though no telling how much a hitting coach actually helps multi-year vets).
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:08 pm to OBUDan
Our prospects suck cock now.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:09 pm to lsu31always
As opposed to being awesome yesterday?
Why now?
Why now?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:09 pm to OBUDan
I NEVER SAW THE NEGATIVES UNTIL SWAMPS POINTED DEM OUT
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:13 pm to lsu31always
TRADE THEM ALL FOR TEH VETERANS.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 6:41 pm to SwampDonks
Forgot to thank you for this.
Well done Swamp
Well done Swamp
Posted on 10/3/11 at 6:45 pm to okietiger
I tend to get bored at times so I'm sure I'll be doing different shite at different points of the offseason
Posted on 10/3/11 at 9:10 pm to SwampDonks
DOB says "Braves need 1-yr bridge to Pastornicky", "not a long term solution".
I am still not sold on Pastornicky as an everyday SS at the big league level.
I am still not sold on Pastornicky as an everyday SS at the big league level.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 9:11 pm to volfan30
Don't worry. Swamps can sell you on it. Dude can sell ice to a polar bear. Each week he has me believing that I will lose in fantasy
Posted on 10/3/11 at 9:13 pm to volfan30
I'm not his biggest fan, but I think you have to at least give him a shot to produce at the major league level
Posted on 10/3/11 at 9:35 pm to SwampDonks
Anything worth reading in here since I was laughed off after my notion that we should trade for an ace?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 9:38 pm to dj30
Don't believe so. Just discussed a few hitting coach options and how some prospects did this past year
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:37 am to SwampDonks
Nothing quite like smoking dope at the cheesecake factory...
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