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re: The 118th US Open Championship - Brooks Koepka B2B champ

Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38195 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:12 pm to
Help a rookie golfer out; why are these guys missing putts so badly? I mean I can’t read a green for shite, but what is it that makes these greens so bad (hard)?
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
29104 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:15 pm to
Speed and slope are very severe
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38195 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:18 pm to
So the same as I’ve heard/read about Augusta? I just ain’t seeing it in tv?
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
17037 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:30 pm to
Plus the wind. The speed and slope make the players baby their putts and the softer you hit a putt the easier it is for the wind to affect it.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64537 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:44 pm to
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They are beating this Phil shite to death. A ruling has been made, it's over, it's finished.



I haven't read any of this thread hardly so idk what the board's mood on this is but I'm just not getting all the outrage

Either he made a emotion induced mistake, something we have all done, or he made a strategic decision to try to save a stroke or two (unlikely), regardless I don't see what all the fuss is about. He was penalized, the end


I mean look at this shite posted by ESPN,
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:51 pm to
No way two sumbitches that were 11shots back should be leading cause they finished at gotdamn lunch. The USGA fricked this up royally. They let the greens get away from them. If some sumbitche that is about 10 over shoots 66 tomorrow he could be in a playoff
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
29104 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:54 pm to
It’s overblown. But I’m not shocked that it is a big deal. You don’t often see blatant breaking of the rules, especially not from of the best golfers ever.

Just imagine if Tiger had done it, would be like dropping a fricking nuke.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40657 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Either he made a emotion induced mistake, something we have all done, or he made a strategic decision to try to save a stroke or two (unlikely), regardless I don't see what all the fuss is about. He was penalized, the end




It boils down to the fact that at his core Phil is an unlikable pussy.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4690 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Plus the wind. The speed and slope make the players baby their putts and the softer you hit a putt the easier it is for the wind to affect it.
It isn't just about speed of the greens. The problem is good golf shots aren't being rewarded. Players are saying they were running at 14 on the stimp meter, and the pins are on steep slopes where the ball either goes in or doesn't stop within 3 feet. One of DJ's putts almost died in on the top edge, then comes 90 degrees to the left 3-4 feet from the hole.

A good case for that is the average score was 4 shots better for the guys playing early in the day, in pretty much the same conditions.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
21245 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:33 pm to
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Just imagine if Tiger had done it, would be like dropping a fricking nuke.



Tiger would WD before he did something like that.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64537 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

o far Mickelson has shot one round in the sixties, one round in the seventies, and one round in the eighties. So is he going to shoot 59 or 90 tomorrow?


Way late but lmao
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140948 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:52 pm to
The conditions weren’t the same though. The gusts became stronger. But nice try. The wind was gusting to 30 but steady at 12 later in day
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15965 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:03 pm to
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A good case for that is the average score was 4 shots better for the guys playing early in the day, in pretty much the same conditions.


Wow, I just saw the stat, and it was even worse than 4 shots. It was closer to 4.5 shots difference.

First 11 groups: 73.6
Last 11 groups: 77

The forecast was for the wind to be steady throughout the day, but it started gusting pretty good in the afternoon. It was definitely easier wind conditions earlier in the day.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37936 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:13 pm to
What did Phil do? Anyone have a link?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:14 pm to
youtube phil mickelson 13th hole us open
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132412 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4690 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:27 pm to
Best quote was from Mike Davis on why people were complaining.
quote:

"There were some aspects of this setup that went too far where well executed shots weren't awarded, but were penalized," Davis said, admitting it was a tale of two golf courses. "Frankly, we just missed it with the wind. it blew harder than we thought."
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132412 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:29 pm to
Shitty excuse. The wind blows in Scotland all the time but the R&A never loses control of Open greens over there.

USGA always gets too cute
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 9:30 pm
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4690 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:35 pm to
The R&A never kill the greens either. What we saw today was brown at best. A poor excuse, but good shots being penalized is why people are complaining.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69751 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:36 pm to
This is one of the most cringeworthy things I've ever read. Forde calls Phil a "Galileo of the greens," "Enrico Fermi of the Fairways," "Steve Jobs," "Bill Gates of the gap wedge," and "Leonardo Da Vinci" in trying to criticize and analyze Phil's decision. Try harder, dude.
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