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Texas Tech Lost This Game On Virginia's Last Possession In Regulation

Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:07 pm
When you have a three point lead and there are less than twenty seconds left on the clock it's stupid not to foul on the floor to send your opponent to the line for a one and one. They can never be allowed to try a three pointer. period. Texas Tech had plenty of chances to commit the floor foul but refused to do so. Everything after this mistake is their fault.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:08 pm to
Tell that to Purdue and Auburn.
Posted by TigerBenz
Member since Mar 2019
69 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:08 pm to
not sure why no one else has mentioned this, they should have fouled and sent them to the line all day
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8322 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:10 pm to
Nah, that’s way too much time left for the foul. Less than 10 seconds, fine. But UVA’s first option was a quick 2 anyway, you don’t foul them there and help them get it with a stopped clock.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:11 pm to
Do you guys even recall how that play went?
Their coach didn't point it out on the previous time out, and right after the Culver spin move basket Virginia went fast. Faked going to the basket, found wide open guy in corner. It happened fast.
It happens.
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:12 pm to
Tech was giving them the layup but the Virginia player passed out to an open three point shooter. Tech should have fouled on the floor BEFORE this was allowed to take place. They didn't. Look what happened.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65489 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:14 pm to
But I was told how beard is such a great coach
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas, Tx
Member since Nov 2018
11061 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:14 pm to
you’re not lying. but let’s not pretend the refs didn’t play a huge roll. guy literally tripped on his own teammate (wasn’t even close) and they called a tripping foul on tech with the ref right in front of them. and then guy wrapped his arm completely around moretti on that chase down and no call. 2 huge momentum swinging plays
Posted by CWilken21
Gnawlins
Member since Mar 2005
3875 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:15 pm to
Tech collapsed 3 guys on the drive to the basket. No reason to leave the man at the 3pt line alone in the corner. Give up the layup and win the game at the line.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8322 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:16 pm to
What? They definitely weren’t giving the him the layup, what game were you watching?

The whole reason the shooter was wide open was because the wing defender crashed HARD to prevent the layup. That’s where the mistake was; overcommitting on the backside help.

You just don’t foul a trailing team with 20 seconds left. Makes no sense.
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:17 pm to
Everything AFTER Tech failed to foul is Tech's fault including the lousy referees. It should not have gone to overtime if Tech had been smart on Virginia's last possession.
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:24 pm to
"You just don’t foul a trailing team with 20 seconds left. Makes no sense"

It depends on the point spread and the time on the clock. At some point, your enemy is no longer the opponent but the clock itself. If you are up by three, why on earth even allow your opposition a chance to shoot a three point shot especially when YOUR team has the ability to send them to the line for ONLY two points. Plus you get the ball back with a chance to eat more clock AND make two points yourself. I bet Beard will think about this for the rest of his life and wonder why he didn't do it.
Posted by Tpayne99
Da Bayou
Member since Jan 2019
1028 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:19 am to
Too much time for that strategy. Under 10 seconds, yes.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8058 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:31 am to
quote:

Texas Tech Lost This Game On Techs Last Possession In Regulation


FIFY

They lost because of that God awful 3 point attempt with 7 seconds left. Literally the most wtf (non referee impacted) play in the tourney.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 6:33 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:35 am to
Tech didn't need to foul. Just stay home on the shooters and concede the layup. They fricked up by helping off the shooter.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8322 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:23 am to
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If you are up by three, why on earth even allow your opposition a chance to shoot a three point shot
BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL 20 SECONDS LEFT.


That’s a long-arse time to play out a 1 possession game. If you foul at 20 seconds, and the other team makes both free throws, then they have ample time to try to force a backcourt turnover before even needing to foul. What happens if you turn it over there? Game over. And even if they foul back, missing one of your free throws makes it a 2 point game, and a 3 pointer now loses it for you. And given they still have 10 seconds to get that 3, your odds of winning have fallen substantially.


I get it, not fouling didn’t work out ideally for Virginia this time. But come on, you have to see that 20 seconds is objectively too much time to intentionally foul when up by a single possession. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a single pro or college team go that route with that much time remaining. It just doesn't make sense.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 7:28 am
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:13 am to
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Tech was giving them the layup


Yeah I guess that is why all 5 tech players collapsed on them.

By the way, fouling in that spot would be stupid.
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:29 pm to
"By the way, fouling in that spot would be stupid."

It depends on what you prefer. Do you prefer your opponent having the chance to tie the game with twenty seconds left on the clock or do you prefer having the ball with a one-point lead where your opponent must foul you to possibly get the ball back? One scenario failed last night. Which one was it? I like my approach better as it is primarily under my control as to which of their foul shooters to foul (their worst one) and as to which of my foul shooters I give them a chance to foul (My best one). Those odds as well as the clock are in my favor.
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