Take the roid argument out- Did Mark McGwire put up HOF #’s?

yes

Easy

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Strictly numbers… someone is arguing me that McGwire was basically Dave Kingman and doesn’t deserve to be in the HOF

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If he truly believes that than he's a dumbass.

And to answer your question, yes, Big Red is a HoF'er

Mark McGwire was the most prodigious home run hitter of all time. He hit 583 home runs, good for 11th all time. But he only had 1626 hits in his career. 35% of his hits were home runs. He averaged 50 dingers over a 162 game average.

Whoever is arguing with you is an idiot.

This is stupid. You cant take away the roid argument but leave him with the roid numbers/statistics

If the roid argument is out then 25% of his hits and HRs need to go. And 25% is being generous. He is not a HOF

If McGwire gets in, then it's a green light for Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, and everyone else!

Why not just add a cheaters gamblers wing
Rose Bonds Clemens Sosa McGwire arod big papi
Explain what happened and note their accomplishments in that era
Their are tainted players in the hall now

1874 games / 162 = only 11.5 seasons worth of play. Was basically done at 35 due to injuries. It can be argued that steroids could have hurt his career numbers more than helped

If you look at his pictures from 1987 (his rookie year) steroids don’t come to mind. He hit a rookie record 49 HRs that year (and said he started taking roids later)

If you adjust the more meh career / longevity numbers for injuries I don’t think there’s any statistical question he belongs, and like Bonds there’s enough proof of hitting excellence before he clearly started taking them that I don’t see how you can argue he isn’t one of the best ever

Sure you can unless you’re a bot brained simpleton who lets media control your thoughts and opinions. Actual people realize that the steroid era was a lot longer than we’re led to believe and that most of these guys like McGwire were retroactively punished for things they did before the MLBs policies were introduced.