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re: Switch LBJ with Jordan and vice versa - Hypothetical

Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:58 pm to
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God help pride and shel if they waste a day on this
Not it
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
17633 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:57 pm to
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ow many championships would each have if they just switched careers?


one in Cleveland each. LBJ cant win multiple in Cleveland owner will not spend the money.

Now Miami LBJ could have won over and over again like MJ did in Chicago.

MJ in my book is the greatest of all time. He made the game look like a ballet he was so smooth.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104281 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 4:02 pm to
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LeBron- Six titles
Jordan- Four titles (Three that LeBron won plus 2011)

I agree Lebron would have the 6 on the bulls, and I agree MJ beats the Mavs.

But I dont know if MJ beats the warriors. That Cavs team would have fricking sunk without the assists and ball movement Lebron brought to that team
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted by cubsfinger
On The Road
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:27 pm to
Yea I guess Jordan won lots of playoff games before Pippen. Also the games best rebounder in Rodman didn't help. Jordan had a super team.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:38 pm to
He technically won only one (rookie against Bucks-great team that decade) playoff game before Pippen, Grant and Jackson joined the Bulls, Jordan was basically one-manning it at that point.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:39 pm to
Jordan was too young to be president in the 60's
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Lebron teams in Miami were much more talented than Jordan’s. Barely squeezed 2 rings out of that



Swap Jordan for LBJ and Miami loses to SA both times.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:20 pm to
Lebron would have absolutely wrecked shop in the 90's.

Those players never saw anything close to that combo of size, speed, athleticism, and skill.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35356 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:22 pm to
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He was on a good team sure but the Bulls didn’t have lunch and decide to all take shorter contracts to allow them to come together.
No MJ just had an entire roster of teammates in his last season with combined salaries of 28.1 million while MJ made 32.14 million. And Scottie Pippen was 3rd team all nba, his 7th selection, and he only made 2.775 million that season. Could you imagine LeBron playing with someone as great as Pippen while making 11.3 times as much?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:52 pm to
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How many championships would each have if they just switched careers?
I think LeBron would have one less than Jordan did with the Bulls and Jordan may have one more than LeBron had in his career with Cavs and Heat.


Do you know how pathetic the Bulls were in the mid-80's?



They weren't even on WGN they sucked so bad.

28-54
27-55
30-52

Get Jordan

50-32

Flipped the script.

LeBron proved he needed some heavy hitters to win a championship in Miami.

Jordan just grinded it out.

Jordan won them with Bill Wellington, Horace Grant, Jim Paxtson, Bill Cartwreight, Will Purdue, B.J. Armstrong.

People complain LeBron has nobody at Cleveland? Shite, look at Jordan's Bulls.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 10:54 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:03 pm to
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50-32


That was the year they added Jackson to the coaching staff and Pippen and Grant to the roster, before those acquisitions the Bulls were a losing team that somehow made the playoffs annually with Jordan as the lone wolf so it's not like he executed the winning turnaround right away, not detracting anything away from Jordan's prolific performance those years but we have to be factual here.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6686 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 5:26 am to
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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Get Jordan

50-32

Flipped the script.

LeBron proved he needed some heavy hitters to win a championship in Miami.

Jordan just grinded it out.

Jordan won them with Bill Wellington, Horace Grant, Jim Paxtson, Bill Cartwreight, Will Purdue, B.J. Armstrong.

People complain LeBron has nobody at Cleveland? Shite, look at Jordan's Bulls.




There is so much fricking wrong in this.

For frick sake, be a jordan guy, but dont say shite like this
Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9404 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 5:37 am to
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I think LeBron would have one less than Jordan did with the Bulls


Lebron would leave the Bulls the first time he doesn't win a championship, and then go follow one his buddies on a better team.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 5:41 am to
Jordan is better. Always will be.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:40 am to
Incorrect. If we're strictly talking basketball.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140506 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:44 am to
So tell us why subjectively why LeBron is the better player? Since you’re so sure.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 8:44 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:41 am to
How about you tell me how swapping LBJ for MJ changes the outcome of any of the Spurs/Heat or Cavs/Warriors Finals?

Like I said, you keep all else equal, and SA is back to back champs in '13 and '14. Easily. I'd hazard a Warriors 3 peat, as well.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9810 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:17 am to
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Jordan won them with Bill Wellington, Horace Grant, Jim Paxtson, Bill Cartwreight, Will Purdue, B.J. Armstrong


There was one guy you're missing. I'm trying to remember his name. Oh that's right, Scottie pippen.

Goddamn you're a terrible poster.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140506 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:20 am to
THanks for ducking and proving my point. You can not prove either of them are better than the other. All else is opinion. But people speaking in absolutes is crazy and you speak in absolutes on the topic.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 10:22 am
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