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re: Steph Curry is the best player of the Lebron era

Posted on 4/27/23 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 7:51 pm to
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There is no curry era. The last 20 years has been Lebron era. His greatness has allowed many other superstars skate through their careers with very little criticism


This is crap.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 7:58 pm to
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This is just about basketball. Not even considering Lebron’s love for communist China, the fake racist graffiti scandal, and all of the other dumbass shite LeBum does off the court.

If it isn't about that then why mention it?
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:18 pm to
Steph hasn't won anything without at least 2 elite teammates. Let me know when Steph wins a title somewhere like Cleveland without any elite teammates.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:32 pm to
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I’d put Durant in front of LeBron as well. Head to head when it mattered, Durant owned him.


This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 8:34 pm
Posted by GolfIsGood
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:35 pm to
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Steph hasn't won anything without at least 2 elite teammates. Let me know when Steph wins a title somewhere like Cleveland without any elite teammates.


Has anyone won a title in Cleveland without elite teammates?

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:36 pm to
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Has anyone won a title in Cleveland without elite teammates?
Kyrie Irving thinks the world is flat and has been awful every season without Lebron and Kevin love went into mental rehab without Lebron. And neither kyrie nor love were all stars that season. I beleive Lebron and dirk are the only players in the last 25 years to win a title without another current all star teammate


So yes
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 8:38 pm
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:59 pm to
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Steph hasn't won anything without at least 2 elite teammates. Let me know when Steph wins a title somewhere like Cleveland without any elite teammates.


Lol Google to see how many Top 75 players Steph has played with vs how many LeBron has played with, not even counting Shaq.

LeBron has played with more star players.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 9:00 pm
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:29 am to
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ThePTExperience1969
. Dude, you have a problem.
Posted by GolfIsGood
Member since Jun 2017
292 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:03 am to
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Kyrie Irving thinks the world is flat and has been awful every season without Lebron and Kevin love went into mental rehab without Lebron. And neither kyrie nor love were all stars that season. I beleive Lebron and dirk are the only players in the last 25 years to win a title without another current all star teammate


Kyrie was injured to start that season, he did not play until late December. That is the only reason he was not an all-star that year. During that stretch of his career, he was an all-star 8 out of 10 seasons, the only two non-all star years were due to injury. He was a three time All-NBA performer during that portion of his career. He played like an All-Star and All NBA player during that playoff run.

So was he an all-star that year no, but he was an elite player.

But I do remember when Dirk (flu and all) took down LeBron, Wade and Bosh.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:58 am to
Steph hasn’t passed Kobe much less lebron. Hint, it will never happen
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:21 am to
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Steph hasn’t passed Kobe much less lebron. Hint, it will never happen


Shaq has Kobe #2 all time behind MJ and he played with both of them.

I don’t agree with Shaq that Kobe is 2nd all time.

But to suggest that if Curry wins another one that he isn’t ahead of James and Kobe, or at least an arguement can be made for him, is ridiculous.

All of his titles have happened during the alleged ERA of LeBron James.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:24 am
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:24 am to
Steph is better than Kobe
Posted by TigerMan327
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:13 pm to
You’re over-inflating titles. He did beat Lebron 3x in NBA finals. But he was favored in 4 of them.

His first title was when Lebron didn’t have his two all star teammates and the other titles were when they had the most stacked team in NBA history.

The most memorable final of those 4 in a row the warriors made was Lebrons 3-1 comeback on a team that was historically bad.

Curry’s great. No arguing it. But his player stats will never be close to passing lebrons stats.

His team stats do have a chance though.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:31 pm to
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You’re over-inflating titles.


That doesn’t exist. Or more accurately, is used as excuse for fans of guy or team who’s lost a lot of them.

Favored or not, the Cavs were a defensive juggernaut with 3 outstanding offensive players. They were phenomenal. The Warriors were favored because they had Steph Curry and Kevin Durant.

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The most memorable final of those 4 in a row the warriors made was Lebrons 3-1 comeback on a team that was historically bad.

Most memorable is certainly subjective. Objectively , the Cavs lost 3 of 4 and should’ve won the first one. They were better than the 15 warriors when the Cavs were at full strength. They were better than the record chasing full throttle banged up Warriors in 16. Then Durant came and made mince meat out of that elite defense because the titles are won with elite wings. The 15 Warriors are an outlier.
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But his player stats will never be close to passing lebrons stats.


That you’re talking about stats, while referring titles being over inflated, is laughable. Stats are the most inflated topic in sports in particular the nba.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:55 pm to
“Over inflating” titles was invented by Lebron Fanboys. It’s not real.
Posted by GolfIsGood
Member since Jun 2017
292 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Curry’s great. No arguing it. But his player stats will never be close to passing lebrons stats.


When talking about greatness stats are important but not dispositive. They are amassed during the regular season when many games simply dont matter. To me greatness is defined in the postseason. This is true now more than ever with load management. No disputing LeBron has had the best statistical career of all-time. But is he the greatest of all-time? To me the answer is simple, of course not.

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You’re over-inflating titles.


When measuring greatness, you cannot over-inflate titles. Playing your best when it matters most defines greatness. Playing your best when it doesn't matter most does not define greatness.

This applies in any sport. Greg Norman was a great golfer, no doubt. But he is not considered one of the greatest of all-time because he didn't play his best golf on Sundays of major championships.

And I don't mean to compare LeBron to Greg Norman because to me LeBron is great, and he is one of the all-time greats. But I dont think he is the greatest, certainly not of all time. And early in his career, I think Kobe and Duncan were greater than LeBron and later in his career, I think Curry has been greater.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:15 pm to
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Lol Google to see how many Top 75 players Steph has played with vs how many LeBron has played with, not even counting Shaq.


Well, a good reason for this is Curry has played with the exact same core for his entire career. Curry is great, without a doubt. But he benefitted extremely well not only from having Klay/Dray as teammates. But the 3 of them being the same age, so that they were in their primes at the exact same time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104756 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:20 pm to
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“Over inflating” titles was invented by Lebron Fanboys. It’s not real.
ok fine have it your way. Name all the players that led their team to more nba titles as a finals mvp

I’ll start the list

Jordan

You finish the list ok?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59754 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 5:40 pm to
That’s a deflection and has nothing to do with a narrative that was invented to defend 1 player in all of NBA history.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104756 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 6:08 pm to
I thought nba titles were the mostimportant like thing ever? So once again, name all the players that were the voted on player that led their team to more titles than Lebron. I will help you start the list:

MJ

You go next
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 6:09 pm
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