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re: Someone explain to be the benefit of a conference only schedule?

Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:45 pm to
If there was a list of the top 20 games where its ranked by the distance separating the two teams, how many I wonder would be OOC. Excluding Hawaii of course.
Posted by titmouse
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:47 pm to
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a full season spring would be ideal, not sure the logistics of working something like that out though. what a debacle


Unless the guidelines on quarantining/exposure are relaxed, a highly effective treatment is endorsed or there is a vaccine (not happening), the same issues will be around this spring.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:51 pm to
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Because it creates ten closed systems.
so how is conference strength going to be evaluated when it comes time for the CFP? Are we expanding to 8 for every P5 conference to get in or 16 for every FBS conference period?
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:53 pm to
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If there was a list of the top 20 games where its ranked by the distance separating the two teams, how many I wonder would be OOC. Excluding Hawaii of course.


It’s not so much the handful of big games as it is the 3 other OOC games, which are typically regional.

Take LSU’s schedule. They are giving up 3 home games vs UTSA, Texas and Nicholls State. 1 away vs. Rice. If they backfill these with SEC East opponents, which is on the table, this will end up being more travel from the two teams for these 4 games.

Big 12. The travel to/from WVA.

ACC. Travel to/from ND for Miami and FSU.

If they fill the schedule travel really isn’t going to be reduced.
Posted by Hogssmellgood
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:55 pm to
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2) Can ensure that everyone follows the same standards. If the B1G has different standards than the AAC, with the AAC being less, it has the potential for issues that can be elimiated by not playing them).


I think this is the main reason.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:56 pm to
college administrations are way to incompetent to figure out how to make a season happen. there will only be nfl.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:24 pm to
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Someone explain to be the benefit of a conference only schedule?


I guess it's a MVP (minimum viable product) type solution.

They are cutting out everything they can and still be able to call it a "season". So they consider the non-conference games to be expendable.

That's my guess. I would love to hear a real explanation from a conference commissioner.

I mean, it's not like non-conference games carry a higher risk (or lower) of getting COVID-19 than a conference game. But every additional game you play and these are the expendable games.

Soon enough, they'll realize all of them are expendable but they aren't there yet.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:27 pm to
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college administrations are way to incompetent to figure out how to make a season happen. there will only be nfl.


They could but they'd have to do what the NBA is doing and commit to athletes living in a bubble world with no travel.

Hard to see universities going for that. Best they'll do would be something like MLB is doing.

Unlike the pros, the players have more leverage here. They aren't getting paid and could easily pull a Mizzou and sit out. Wouldn't be surprised if they use this as leverage with the NCAA to demand more benefits.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:29 pm to
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2) Can ensure that everyone follows the same standards. If the B1G has different standards than the AAC, with the AAC being less, it has the potential for issues that can be elimiated by not playing them).


Hmm... this is a good point.

Along these lines, can't wait for the debate about how the CFP will work if not all conferences play same number of regular season games.

This is just the beginning of the whole season unraveling. Just grab some popcorn. LSU remains champs because not gonna play.
Posted by Uptowner
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:30 pm to
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the benefit of a conference only schedule?


It's fun to go in dry on Notre Dame?
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:32 pm to
Doing this will cause long term damage to football at all levels because universities and colleges will fold up their football programs which means fewer scholarships available to high school kids which means those kids will switch sports and abandon football.

In conference is stupid on many levels.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:33 pm to
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If they backfill these with SEC East opponents, which is on the table, this will end up being more travel from the two teams for these 4 games.



Has this actually been something confirmed that they are trying to do? If we have a season I doubt we are playing more than 10 games
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:34 pm to
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Has the actually been something confirmed that they are trying to do? If we have a season I doubt we are playing more than 10 games


No it’s being kicked around as a possibility though.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:37 pm to
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Doing this will cause long term damage to football at all levels because universities and colleges will fold up their football programs


I don't think one season, even two seasons, will kill off football at most any school in FBS. It will hurt a lot in the short term but there's way too money in CFB for it not to bounce back.

And honestly, I think we need fewer FBS schools anyway. I'm happy to see that Grambling and Southern will be playing LSU (long overdue) but generally speaking I can't stand rent-a-win games, especially against FCS teams, and would rather see more Power 5 games and increased parity that would result from narrowing the FBS field.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:37 pm to
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No it’s being kicked around as a possibility though.


I seriously doubt that happens, seems like empty speculation. I do agree that the main reason is to make it easier to control from an optics perspective conference by conference.

Feels like 8-10 games with extra bye weeks makes the most sense but I guess thats the hopeful idea at this point.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:45 pm to
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less travel


They would be better off keeping the rent-a-win games.

I guess maybe it was easier to cancel all non-conference games than to tell their one Power 5 non-conference opponent so sad too bad and look like a bunch of pussies wiggling their way out of a tough game for "safety" reasons.

This is only the beginning. Everybody is clinging to the hope there will be any season at all.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:47 pm to
Per a Big Ten coach.

quote:

They're just trying to create flexibility if a team gets a bunch of cases and they can't play one week," said the source. "They want flexibility. Control and flexibility are key. Give yourself maybe two or three weeks of flexibility with 10 games over 13, 14 weeks. … that gives you flexibility to maneuver games around if a team can't play because they get too many cases.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:51 pm to
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Control and flexibility are key.


And you have a lot more control over conference games.

That actually makes some sense.

We'll see if they can really control the spread of COVID-19 or not.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:05 pm to
It needs to be regional

South Carolina and Clemson need to play
Florida and Fla State need to play
LSU Texas needs to play
aTM and Texas
BYU and Utah
Etc, etc etc

LSU schedule could easily be:

Texas
Arkansas
Auburn
Alabama
Miss State
Ole Miss
aTm
Regional CUSA LaTech or sunbelt team ULx

The schools need to think regional right now and plan accordingly


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