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Some baseball cities have such a rich history that almost any manager will win

Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:28 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:28 pm
I believe that certain MLB manager seek out, knowingly or subconsciously, destination jobs that will almost ensure them a World Series victory or two. Sort of "fate" jobs.

Some baseball cities simply have a magical aura that coaches, players, and fans are all tuned into.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 11:44 pm
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:33 pm to
let me guess. no wait don't tell me.



you think one is St. Louis?!?!
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:34 pm to
The coaches do this, or the managers?
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78186 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:36 pm to
Well, the numbers prove it.

frick them though.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13607 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:44 pm to
is it the cities or the organizations? yes, its easier to win as a yankee b/c theyre more committed to winning than most. but managing/playing for NYY, bahstin, stl cardinals, dodgers have drawbacks, too.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38666 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:37 pm to
Because the fans will it through ......prayer????? Overwhelming postivity??????
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39557 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:08 pm to
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Because the fans will it through ......prayer????? Overwhelming postivity??????



To me, its a perpetual motion machine that feeds itself. Kind of like major cities. They can last a longer time off organizational inertia alone.

Some organizations won 60 years ago, which built a fanbase, which buys tickets/merchandise, which leads to owners being able to finance players, which makes it a great place for players to play, which brings in the best players, who win more championships, which brings in more fans, who buy more merchandise and tickets and on we go.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:10 pm to
I am a Cards fan too, guess you don't remember the 70's?

All the young arms ought to hold us for a few years right now though.
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
5913 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:14 pm to
Wait, so the mets are gonna win the World Series this year?
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38666 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

Some organizations won 60 years ago, which built a fanbase, which buys tickets/merchandise, which leads to owners being able to finance players,


So $$$$$......It's more about front office/ scouting.....although in MLB, you can buy a good team. But really, its the Yankees and Dodgers that can buy enough free agent talent to compete. The rest of the league has to be smart. There are plenty of examples of teams without a winning history, winning recently......Rangers, Angels, Arizona, Colorado.......And I would argue the Dodgers are a prime example that refutes your argument have sucked the last 15-20 years in spite of being a storied franchise with great fan support.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:41 pm to
Obviously there is several factors. I think the cities with rich history are usually bigger/more populated and bring in more revenue. Some of the older more historic franchises will obviously have a bigger fan base also adding to revenue. But like I said there or several factors that contribute to success or no small market teams would ever compete. Great owner/manager/farm system can work wonders in any city.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:43 pm to
At the same time you're on an extremely short leash
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:45 pm to
Why?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71347 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:21 am to
quote:

Some baseball cities simply have a magical aura that coaches, players, and fans are all tuned into.



Explain how Boston went 23809582390589023 years without a title then.
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:29 am to
Joe Torre left St. Louis with no titles and was at the time considered an average manager at best. He goes to New York and boom, he's a genius.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71347 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:30 am to
quote:

Joe Torre left St. Louis with no titles and was at the time considered an average manager at best. He goes to New York and boom, he's a genius.



He was excellent at deflecting blame from big names and keeping a good club house.

He was TERRIBLE with relievers, like borderline sadistic with ones that he felt confident in.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17098 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:06 am to
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