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re: So why are Calipari's teams clean now?

Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:55 pm to
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Those guys were top 5 recruits that Roy stashed on the bench in an effort to get twi years out of them. Orton and bledsoe were ranked around 30 and had no one and done hype, completely different situations.



I see what you're saying about them being highly ranked recruits, but he didn't stash them on the bench to try and get two years out of them. Well, maybe Wright, but Marvin had Jawad Williams, and Sean May in front of him. Wright only had Hansbrough, Deon Thompson, and Alex Stepheson, unless Rayshawn Terry played the 4 and Danny Green played the 3, in which I think might have been the case.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:40 pm to
He isn't. It's been so funny here in Nashville to hear all the Lentucky fans call in all week and say," Coach Call has never been proven to do anything". Yeah except every school he has been at has vacated games. Period.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:05 pm to
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What do you think he had to do with an agent paying Marcus Camby?


Well since his whole recruiting strategy seemed to be I will filter you into the pros ASAP, I'm sure he wasn't doing anything to prevent agents from contacting his players. Not that other guys do any better...
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:27 pm to
Another busey classic where any questioning of Paypal Cal is somehow deflected to Roy Williams being a dirty guy. Just makes you seem more in denial IMO. You are the most delusional person on here.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:33 pm to
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So the NCAA just didn't feel like implicating him? Makes total sense.


We both know coach Cal is in Every aspect of the program he is at. If you at the head coach at a school whom has to vacate wins and goes on probation , them that's on you as a head coach. If he was anyone but Kentucky coach you would agree.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:34 pm to
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Besides, something tells me Cal isn't exactly worried about what happens 5 years from now.

Exactly, the NCAA could take away 5 scholarships from Kentucky basketball, and Calipari would still be able to fill the remaining roster with his choice of players. The only thing that will slow down Kentucky basketball would be getting banned from the NCAA tournament. Without hat attraction most one and done guys would go elsewhere.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Same friggin' thing as passing the buck at every stop. This isn't a kentucky thing (though UK does have a long proud history of running afoul of the NCAA -- Eddie Sutton ring any bells?), it's a Calipari thing. I don't care one way or the other about UK basketball, but the fact Cal keeps coaching at places that then magically get put on probation through absolutely no fault of his own in any way, shape, or form, and it would be crazy to suggest so and then parlays it into a BETTER gig is frankly disgusting.


Yeah Kentucky only named their arena after a guy whom was found guilty of cheating.
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:39 pm to
The NCAA Clearing House said Rose was fine.

So did Cal pay them off or what?

And I'll ask again, if Cal was at fault, why didn't the NCAA implicate him?

No BS cop outs like "where there's smoke"...

Why didn't they implicate him? They weren't feeling well that day?
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 4:43 pm
Posted by busey
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:40 pm to
So did Oklahoma State.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:44 pm to
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Cal, like every other good coach in D-1 is a micro-manager. He knows what everyone is doing, as does Izzo, Pitino, K, Calhoun, Roy, Saban, Les, Spurrier, and anyone else who is worth a shite in college sports. "I didn't know" might be a plausible excuse for an 85-year old figure head like Bobby Bowden (notice I am going nowhere near Paterno) or a dumbass like Sidney Lowe but not for an intelligent and organized man like Calipari.


Spot on.
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:45 pm to
So why didn't they implicate him?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:51 pm to
Well I guess OJ Simpson didn't murder his wife!
Rose failed the test 3 times then drives 150 miles to a place Cal is familiar with and all the sudden passes. Come on bruh. It doesn't make you any less of a fan because you use logic. Cal is a damn good coach and it wouldn't surprise me of he weren't cheating at Kentucky , because Kentucky can somewhat recruit itself. But Memphis? You get the number one high school player to leave Chicago and big east / big ten country to play in conference USA?
Be honest. If Louisville had a coach that his last two coaching jobs had vacated final four trips and put on probation, you would call him a cheater.
Also why do all Kentucky fans deflect?I mention Kentucky named their Aran after a cheater and you say ," so did Oklahoma state". What does that have to do with Kentucky?
If I murder someone and don't get convicted then you murder someone, your Arguement can't be," we'll he didn't go to jail".
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 4:53 pm
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
Member since Feb 2010
22958 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:54 pm to
Again with the deflection. Just answer the question.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:57 pm to
I thought someone took the test in place of Rose.

Seriously, how can the haters, like yourself, play off the vacated wins of 2 teams as cheating yet they had nothing to do with Cal and everything to do with bad judgement on the part of a 18 and 20 year old kid?

Yes, the judgement of these 2 kids wiped out 2 whole seasons that Cal coached. But some how it is him cheating?

It's like people just want to talk about how he vacated wins, yet none of you idiots want to acknowledge why or for what reasons. You act like he is Nick Nolte in blue chips. It's just blind haterism
Posted by Nonetheless
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 5:02 pm to
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It's like people just want to talk about how he vacated wins, yet none of you idiots want to acknowledge why or for what reasons. You act like he is Nick Nolte in blue chips. It's just blind haterism
Posted by F1V3LSU
Alex Padilla 2016
Member since Dec 2011
3053 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 5:57 pm to
I don't really see what makes Calipari so dirty.

People keep talking about him cheating, but I haven't seen anything that indicates he was remotely involved.

eta: Especially regarding UMass. Some agents paid one of his players? So he cheated? According to a lot of people. Don't see what that has to do with Cal being dirty.
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 5:58 pm
Posted by F1V3LSU
Alex Padilla 2016
Member since Dec 2011
3053 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 5:58 pm to
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I thought someone took the test in place of Rose.

Seriously, how can the haters, like yourself, play off the vacated wins of 2 teams as cheating yet they had nothing to do with Cal and everything to do with bad judgement on the part of a 18 and 20 year old kid?

Yes, the judgement of these 2 kids wiped out 2 whole seasons that Cal coached. But some how it is him cheating?

It's like people just want to talk about how he vacated wins, yet none of you idiots want to acknowledge why or for what reasons. You act like he is Nick Nolte in blue chips. It's just blind haterism


Great post
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 6:44 pm to
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Again with the deflection. Just answer the question.



Oh the irony.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 6:46 pm to
Look I'm not hating in Kentucky. I was definately wanting Kentucky to win. Without a doubt. It still doesn't mean I am blind to facts. Every stop Coach Cal has been at has had to vacate wins. With that said I would do backflips if he came to LSU.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 6:47 pm to
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Seriously, how can the haters, like yourself, play off the vacated wins of 2 teams as cheating yet they had nothing to do with Cal and everything to do with bad judgement on the part of a 18 and 20 year old kid?


I'm not hating. All I've stated is facts.
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