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re: Saints had the advantage in OT twice
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:17 pm to gobuxgo5
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:17 pm to gobuxgo5
What about Tom Brady getting grazed in the facemask and getting a roughing the passer or Drew brees getting smoked in the face and no roughing called or on the same play the PI on the defensive back that wasnt called. Only if the ball is tipped can you hit the reciever it was not. Drew's arm was hit the ball wasnt tipped.
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:20 pm to Rhino5
The NFL never proved a bounty had been placed on ANY player, including Brett Favre (Eight Saints players and coaches testified under oath that it never happened. The NFL produced zero witnesses to testify that the bounty did occur and even Paul Tagliabue, shill for the NFL, didn't try to claim this in his final report). * Teams playing the Saints sustained fewer injuries than against any other team but the San Diego Chargers during the three years the supposed "malicious and pervasive" bounty program was in place. * A federal judge called the NFL's case "ridiculous" and criticized Goodell for lack of due process. * The appointed three-person panel reviewing the case ruled that Goodell violated the collective bargaining agreement between players and the league. * The NFL's key witness, Mike Cerullo - former defensive assistant in 2009 that was fired after four weeks of unexcused absences - admitted he lied to the NFL
Now, if you want to bring an actual argument and substance we can discuss it.
Now, if you want to bring an actual argument and substance we can discuss it.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:24 pm to TotesMcGotes
Again, cool story.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:26 pm to gobuxgo5
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1st- holding someone to a 57 yard field goals all but ensures a GW FG for Saints if rams kicker misses.
What’s the % makes on 57 yarders anyway? Can’t be higher than 30-35%
Yeah people aren't talking about this. Just the offense. Always thought if the Saints made the SB it would be their defense. Refs were going to let the D play and offenses like the Saints did all year long couldn't rely on earning penalties to extend drives.
I thought the Saints were getting bailed out by their D after Brees' pick and that long-kick would easily miss...and Saints would only need 30 yards to make the game winner.
frick Vinateri, that was about as clutch of a motherfricking kick as you can get.
Most NFL kickers in the regular season can't make a 57-yarder in a meaningless game.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:30 pm to gobuxgo5
OP is pretty much right in his assessment but game never should have went to OT. Saints missed on some opportunities early in the game that would have made that call null and void but they put themselves in position to win in the end and got absolutely fricked out of it.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:33 pm to gobuxgo5
Chicken should grant us extra downvotes for at least one thread a day. And there are a lot of bad threads on the MSB.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:34 pm to samson73103
But are the Saints in same position if the call the Goff mask and Delay of Game on Hill?
It goes both ways
They make the call on face mask call it’s 1st and goal Rams run more time either scores or ties it and changes game situation andcalls as Saints are in scramble mode with less time and possibletime outs
If the call on Delay it doesn’t become a TD most likely
So how can you say only one got hosed when both clearly did
It goes both ways
They make the call on face mask call it’s 1st and goal Rams run more time either scores or ties it and changes game situation andcalls as Saints are in scramble mode with less time and possibletime outs
If the call on Delay it doesn’t become a TD most likely
So how can you say only one got hosed when both clearly did
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:36 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
He would’ve made that shite from like 70 yards. Props to him.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:47 pm to Klark Kent
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Chicken should grant us extra downvotes for at least one thread a day. And there are a lot of bad threads on the MSB.
I’ll downvote myself for 10 Schrute bucks.
I think the imaginary value of a TD downvote = 10 Fictional Schrute bucks.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:04 pm to sms151t
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call the Goff mask
Was inadvertent, open hand graze and the defender felt it kept his hand open and allowed Goff to get two extra yards. The inadvertent facemask has been gone from the game for a couple years.
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Delay of Game on Hill?
There is a delay from when the clock hits zero and the flag comes out. This is nothing new. It was talked about in several bowl games and NFL games by announcers that if the snap occurs before the ref pulls his flag out they let it go. The Rams got away with a couple as well.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:10 pm to AwesomeSauce
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The inadvertent facemask has been gone from the game for a couple years.
Incorrect all mask calls are 15 yard personal fouls even the inadvertent ones. You guys know this
As for the delay it was egregious but not called but it changed the game
There was the missed Gurley TD as well also
As I said both teams got hosed so don’t act like it was only Saints
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:23 pm to AwesomeSauce
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There is a delay from when the clock hits zero and the flag comes out. This is nothing new
Probably happens in every single football game and he's arguing it in comparison to the one of the biggest missed calls in NFL history.
It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:37 pm to sms151t
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Incorrect all mask calls are 15 yard personal fouls even the inadvertent ones. You guys know this
They did away with the 5yrd almost ten years ago. There has been a concerned effort over the past three seasons to let incidental grazes where there is no grasping go.
Mask Rule
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for the delay it was egregious but not called but it changed the game
Roughing on Brees, multiple DPI, and a call so bad the game will be dubbed the no call game. Sure though the ref not pulling a flag out in a tenth of a second between the play clock hitting zero and the ball being snapped is the egregious one....
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 2:47 pm to sms151t
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But are the Saints in same position if the call the Goff mask and Delay of Game on Hill?
It goes both ways
They make the call on face mask call it’s 1st and goal Rams run more time either scores or ties it and changes game situation and calls as Saints are in scramble mode with less time and possible time outs
If the call on Delay it doesn’t become a TD most likely So how can you say only one got hosed when both clearly did
And if the refs would have called PI on the 3rd down pass to Ginn, the Saints might have scored a TD on that drive too... We can go back and forth on missed calls for both teams, but nothing compares to the most obvious missed call that directly changed the outcome of the game.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:00 pm to FultonReed
So the initial delay didn’t change the game? I know you guys are pissed off but to say that that 1 call cost the Saints is wrong. I mean every call changed the game and both got jobbed. But deep down you know the Saints lost because they got outplayed and outcoached
At what point can you say he 100% makes the kick? You cant. Just like I cant say the Chiefs 100% don’t lose if Ford lines up onside
At what point can you say he 100% makes the kick? You cant. Just like I cant say the Chiefs 100% don’t lose if Ford lines up onside
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:02 pm to sms151t
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but to say that that 1 call cost the Saints is wrong.
dumbest take currently on the internet.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:07 pm to Klark Kent
No the dumbest take is the Saints fans that are complaining of a conspiracy
Then the Saints fans saying missed calls throughout didn’t change anything
Then the Saints fans saying missed calls throughout didn’t change anything
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:07 pm to Klark Kent
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dumbest take currently on the internet.
The game will be the no call game, and will go down in football lore. It will be one of those games people will watch in twenty years and still be in disbelief that the call ended up costing a conference championship game. The only people making light of the call are Rams fans, contrarians, and people who dislike the Saints.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:11 pm to sms151t
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Saints fans saying missed calls throughout didn’t change anything
The problem with you whatifs are that the two you called out specifically are missed in games weekly and can even be explained as to why it wasn't called. A missed call that is so egregious that the game will be remembered and how the game is officiated will change that happened at a key moment of leverage that ends the game is much different than the one your are referencing.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:15 pm to sms151t
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No the dumbest take is the Saints fans that are complaining of a conspiracy
Then the Saints fans saying missed calls throughout didn’t change anything
No, the dumbest take of all was your claim in another thread that the Saints "benefited more" from missed calls, despite the worst playoff officiating bungle since the Dez Bryant "no catch" debacle.
I get that you're just trolling for attention and to elicit responses. Fine, I'll play along for the lolz...but at least TRY to be less ignorant about it.
Even after that, the Saints still had 2 opportunities to win the game. They didn't. That's why I can't get very worked up over it.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 3:22 pm
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