re: Ryen Russillo talking race- But not how you think

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I have found that black people are generally open and willing to engage on race, as long as I approach it in an academic manner.

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Yes, a multilayered and nuanced, and largely emotionally driven issue like race should be discussed from an academic standpoint.

What fears others in this realm is that their conceptions and preconceived notions about race will be debunked because their based in falsehoods, lies, and fears.

About how well basketball and the MLS are doing compared to MLB. He's been able to document his 90% figure, though comparing it to racial tension. I'd argue it's more of a culture clash between what's acceptable and what's not. Personally, I don't think race made Yordano Ventura (RIP) start a multiple fights, I think he could just kind of be an a-hole in the moment.

The funny thing is baseball isn't even that white. The latinos probably make up about 30% of the league.

NBA is vastly more black than MLB is white.

But facts are not welcome to the SJW crowd.

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But you are hiding from the point.

His point is WHY is it ok to say baseball is too white, but not too say basketball is too black?

I know exactly why the sports are the way they are, racially. Most everyone does.

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This times 100.

Russillo is a very bright guy. He knows exactly why certain sports are played more by certain races.

His point is why is it ok to talk about some of those situations but not others.

I'd still like to see StrongSafety address this.

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frick StrongSafety. He's not worth anyone's time of day.

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I know he's not popular on here, but I want to see his answer to this. Why is it ok to point out the lack of black head coaches in the NFL, but not ok to point out the lack of white cornerbacks?

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Why is it ok to point out the lack of black head coaches in the NFL, but not ok to point out the lack of white cornerbacks?

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One has to deal with a leagues nepotism and other who knows.

S/O to Jason Sehorn for being WCB GOAT.

Well the stigma arises from an old age fallacious that black men can't lead/don't Have the mental capacity to do so. That negative stereotype is a lot more damaging and false than saying a white dude can't run or jump high enough (even though I'd argue that this is damaging as well and bad too)

I'd argue that maybe white players with choices are opting out of football for other sports while black coaches are buying all in on football and keep getting passed over for failed retreads. How many white CBS are even attempting to make it? Well we don't have any because of the discrimination they face as early as middle school football

I just addressed it. He wants to look at it from a "well if you do it, why can't I, that's not fair" perspective while I'm asking him and y'all to dig deeper.

No one ever wants to do that.

White players have more choices due to socioeconomics but also face positional discrimination that makes these choices easier for them IMO

Black players don't have the luxury to be as liberal with their choices due to socioeconomics but they usually don't face the positional stigmas at those skills positions besides QB, C, and MLB.

Thus these groups start to specialize or corner a market/position that they feel that they are supposed to play.

If we stopped saying things like "white Boys can't run or jump" and broke down some of those cultural stigmas, I think we could make way for more white skill position players

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Is it really though? I think white skill position players face unfair and cruel stigmas and discrimination from an early age. I'd even argue that it pushes them out of the sport or into self fulfilling biases.

I'd say this applies to black QBs too. White skill guys are told from an early age that they basically will never have what it takes to be a CB/RB/WR, no matter their 40 times, stats, traits. It will always be casted as less than. It's wrong and I would say just not true.

Studies have shown that athletes tend to gravitate towards the ingroup. Maybe that's why white players will opt for baseball. There are enough fast and quick 5-11 to 6-1 190 to 210 white guys in the MLB that I think, if they focused on football, that could be high level CFB or NFL players.

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And you can't empirically substantiate any of that. Blacks make up 13% of the population so the discrepancy in numbers is beyond dramatic and if you're theories were at all reasonable, the discrimination would have to of epidemic proportions and blatant beyond all measure. Blacks routinely put up measurables that are seldom touched by whites in athletic measurements. And great athletes play more than one sport so they tend to go with what they love and which they excel at more. To act as if there is some great societal bias or pressure on little league players is fricking laughably uncorroborated by anything.

But I'm sure the only reason we don't have white Jordan's, Kobe's, Lebron's, Durant's, etc. is because that 73% of the population that's white just gets "cruelly stigmatized" and "discriminated against" at an early age and they give up trying.

Give me a fricking break.

Baseball is very Dominican and Cuba now