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re: Ryan Shazier injured on MNF
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:20 pm to SilverStallion
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:20 pm to SilverStallion
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Anything above C6 can kill you or will be life threatening
Nah, the diaphragm is innervated by C3, 4 and 5. GENERALLY speaking, a spinal cord injury needs to be at C4 or higher to be truly life threatening though a C5 injury can cause moderate difficulty breathing.
And unfortunately, when you use "spinal shock" outside of a neurology setting many healthcare workers (even some doctors) incorrectly hear "neurogenic shock" which is completely different.
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:21 pm to SilverStallion
How long would it be until they would know? I couldn't imagine what he's going through right now.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:23 pm to SilverStallion
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Paralysis would be unknown at this point.
Probably the only thing we can take away from the injury at this point
He'll need further evaluation and testing to confirm the damage
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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the diaphragm is innervated by C3, 4 and 5. GENERALLY speaking, a spinal cord injury needs to be at C4 or higher to be truly life threatening though a C5 injury can cause moderate difficulty breathing.
Someone paid attention in anatomy
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:25 pm to CFDoc
Game is hard to watch after seeing Shazier go down. Just have a sick feeling in my stomach for the guy. Never want to see it happen to anyone but the kid seems like, not just a great player but, a really good human being as well.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:25 pm to saint tiger225
And spinal shock isn't necessarily a "good" thing. Relative to the alternatives sure, but he'd possibly still never play again depending on the severity of the inciting injury. Spinal shock just exacerbates the acute phase but he could have chronic debility once it resolves.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:26 pm to Roger Klarvin
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but he'd possibly still never play again
least of his worries at the moment
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:27 pm to OKtiger
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Someone paid attention in anatomy
I did a month of trauma surgery and a month of neurosurgery way back in med school, saw way more awful spinal injuries than I ever wanted to. Watching a C4 transection awkwardly gasp for air is one of the worst things to see.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:28 pm to saint tiger225
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How long would it be until they would know?
Depends. Any sort of lesion or structural damage to the spinal cord, let alone the vertebrae, can manifest in various clinical presentations. Usually x-ray or MRI can give an indication which they would find out within the hour (or so) of showing up to the hospital
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:30 pm to OKtiger
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Someone paid attention in anatomy
C3, C4, and C5 keep the diaphragm alive.
Good mnemonic for those of the OT interested in medical trivia
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:33 pm to Roger Klarvin
The first time you visit a spinal center, it will change the way you look at life.
frick SCI's.
frick SCI's.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:33 pm to BranchDawg
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:34 pm to Blob Fish
Joe Mixon dead too
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:34 pm to BranchDawg
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:35 pm to OneMoreTime
Many more games like this on prime time and NFL will be dead.
No one will let their kids play.
No one will let their kids play.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:37 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Many more games like this on prime time and NFL will be dead.
No one will let their kids play.
Thoughts already racing through my head. Have on that will be playing in 10th grade and my youngest completely blew out his ACL in 5th grade a year ago.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:38 pm to Blob Fish
It’s been almost an hour and there are still no updates. That can’t be a good sign... When dealing with a back/neck injury isn’t news about full mobility one of the quickest updates?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:39 pm to OKtiger
MRI should be first test they do
MRI on full body takes much longer to do just to get the images.
MRI on full body takes much longer to do just to get the images.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:39 pm to StarsFan21
they really owe us nothing.. let the medical professionals do their job and when they are ready to relay information to the public, they will
i think i heard ESPN say that the Steelers' PR people said no more updates tonight, could be wrong, so maybe someone can correct me
i think i heard ESPN say that the Steelers' PR people said no more updates tonight, could be wrong, so maybe someone can correct me
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:41 pm
come on
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