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re: Rudolph appears to kick Myles in balls before helmet is ripped off.

Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:00 pm to
The biggest point for everyone to account is Myles and Mason are both the prime instigators and its not a 90/10 split one way or the other. They are both heavily responsible in near equal blame.

DeCastro grabbed a hold of Myles Garret and escorted him off of the QB after he ripped the helmet off. Myles was not retaliating against anyone any further.

Then, Mason proceeded that enough wasn't enough and went after Myles (again could be argued) for nearly an entire 2 seconds charging myles when Myles was being held onto by another steeler. Then like the chuck e cheese game, he went whap on the shithead.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:10 pm to
The NFL, and anyone else with a modicum of common sense, disagrees with you.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:12 pm to
the answer and % culpability you seek can be found by answering the question “by the rules of the NFL, who first instigated the fight?” There is no mutual or equal culpability in this issue. facts speak for themselves, QB started it and therefore owns 100% of the responsibility...
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:13 pm to
I agree with everything he just said. There is only one person I’ve spoken to today that disagrees with him, everyone else agrees that Rudolph should be punished as well. He’ll, even the nfl is fining him so they agree he was in the wrong as well.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50922 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

There is no mutual or equal culpability in this issue. facts speak for themselves, QB started it and therefore owns 100% of the responsibility...


So Myles Garrett is in no way responsible for removing Rudolph’s helmet and hitting him with it?

Like I just said, anyone with common sense disagrees with this stance.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50922 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

I agree with everything he just said. There is only one person I’ve spoken to today that disagrees with him, everyone else agrees that Rudolph should be punished as well. He’ll, even the nfl is fining him so they agree he was in the wrong as well.


Fining him means they think he’s of “equal blame” to the player that they indefinitely suspended?

Do explain.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:16 pm to
If mason Rudolph didn’t charge Myles Garrett while he was being held back, would it have escalated to where it did?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:16 pm to
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I'm no lawyer but this would be defense exhibit 1 if criminal or civil charges are pressed.



Criminal charges are out of the window when Rudolph charged Garrett.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:16 pm to
Please show me where I said equal?

Ok I see where I said I agree with everything Chad said and didn’t read his whole post lol. They don’t deserve equal blame. But to say mason is completely innocent or doesn’t deserve punishment, is ludicrous.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:17 pm to
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Please show me where I said equal?


You said you agree with everything he said. He literally said they deserve near equal blame.

This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50922 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

But to say mason is completely innocent or doesn’t deserve punishment, is ludicrous.


I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say this. Most people realize Rudolph played a part.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:21 pm to
Myles is responsible “after the fact”, he should not have done it, heat of the moment, QB started it and escalates it by attacking Myles while he is being held by others then comes to his senses as the helmet glances off his dome and throws his arms up and looks around for the refs playing the BS “I’m the victim” defense...
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50922 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Myles is responsible “after the fact”, he should not have done it, heat of the moment, QB started it then comes to his senses as the helmet glances off his dome and throws his arms up and looks around for the refs playing the BS “I’m the victim” defense...


Well he was the victim of a psychopath swinging a football helmet at him.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:25 pm to
don’t start what you can’t finish...
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127849 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

the answer and % culpability you seek can be found by answering the question “by the rules of the NFL, who first instigated the fight?” There is no mutual or equal culpability in this issue. facts speak for themselves, QB started it and therefore owns 100% of the responsibility...




You are fricking insane. Seek help.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:29 pm to
who died and left you grand ruler, go frick yourself...
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Nope, if you actually watch the video rather than the still photo, you see that he is trying to push himself away


"Back and to the Left...Back and to the Left"
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50922 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

don’t start what you can’t finish...


Does this somehow make someone not a victim? You seem to be losing your grasp.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27032 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:31 pm to
Garrett is forcibly pulling him up and seems he is trying to push him off of him.
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