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RIP: Pro rassler Ole Anderson, 81
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:47 pm
I know some people have conniptions every time pro rasslin is mentioned here, downvote away, I don’t care. But I can promise you a lot of folks here watched this guy and his “brothers” on TBS back in the day before Vince’s freak show took over.
Dude was legit tough and ornery, was stabbed seven times by fans including once in Greenville where a fan opened him up with a hawkbill so badly that he needed surgery to repair torn tendons in his arm and 100 stitches to sew up the other holes. He was back in the ring in a week.
It’s worked entertainment, not a sport, but guys like him made it seem real enough to get that kind of response.
Dude was legit tough and ornery, was stabbed seven times by fans including once in Greenville where a fan opened him up with a hawkbill so badly that he needed surgery to repair torn tendons in his arm and 100 stitches to sew up the other holes. He was back in the ring in a week.
It’s worked entertainment, not a sport, but guys like him made it seem real enough to get that kind of response.
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:00 pm to InkStainedWretch
For better or worse, Ole was one of the most influential men in modern wrestling.
Besides being in ring talent and a booker, his single biggest contribution would be in controlling owner of the Georgia territory.
He pulled a power play in late 1982 to exile powerful part owner of the promotion, Jim Barnett, over financial issues. This sent him straight into the arms of Vince McMahon as he was prepping to do his national expansion.
Barnett helped frick Ole over in return in 1984 by cobbling together enough of the Georgia territory owners (himself, the Brisco brothers, etc) to sell control to Vince and take over Georgia’s lucrative TBS timeslot.
Vince had apparently tried to bring Ole in and was told, explicitly, to go frick himself.
Some months later, Vince met with him again with Linda in tow. Ole told him “frick you again and frick her too.”
Besides being in ring talent and a booker, his single biggest contribution would be in controlling owner of the Georgia territory.
He pulled a power play in late 1982 to exile powerful part owner of the promotion, Jim Barnett, over financial issues. This sent him straight into the arms of Vince McMahon as he was prepping to do his national expansion.
Barnett helped frick Ole over in return in 1984 by cobbling together enough of the Georgia territory owners (himself, the Brisco brothers, etc) to sell control to Vince and take over Georgia’s lucrative TBS timeslot.
Vince had apparently tried to bring Ole in and was told, explicitly, to go frick himself.
Some months later, Vince met with him again with Linda in tow. Ole told him “frick you again and frick her too.”
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:10 pm to teke184
Here’s a couple of things he said in interviews:
“If you look at what causes people to come to wrestling, and you realize that the biggest thing that’s involved in my mind, anyway, is the human emotions. And if you’re going to tell me that human emotions have changed because it’s the 1990s or the 21st century, it’ll tell you, number one, you’re an ignorant mother son of a bitch. People still love, people still hate, somebody wants to screw his neighbor’s wife, somebody wants to kill his neighbor, somebody wants to rob somebody or shoot him, or whatever it might be. The emotions we have as humanity haven’t changed for thousands and thousands of years.”
“Why would anybody willingly come down and stab me, because they have to think at some point that there might be consequences for their actions, which of course could lead to jail. But no. They were so caught up in the whole damn thing that nothing made any sense to them but that they wanted to hurt me anyway they could. Go to a match today, and tell me who gets upset.”
“If you look at what causes people to come to wrestling, and you realize that the biggest thing that’s involved in my mind, anyway, is the human emotions. And if you’re going to tell me that human emotions have changed because it’s the 1990s or the 21st century, it’ll tell you, number one, you’re an ignorant mother son of a bitch. People still love, people still hate, somebody wants to screw his neighbor’s wife, somebody wants to kill his neighbor, somebody wants to rob somebody or shoot him, or whatever it might be. The emotions we have as humanity haven’t changed for thousands and thousands of years.”
“Why would anybody willingly come down and stab me, because they have to think at some point that there might be consequences for their actions, which of course could lead to jail. But no. They were so caught up in the whole damn thing that nothing made any sense to them but that they wanted to hurt me anyway they could. Go to a match today, and tell me who gets upset.”
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:17 pm to InkStainedWretch
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:34 pm to MUMFORD
I loved wrestling back in the day, it was a fun release. What Vince did to it was a perversion.
I’ll tell you how far I go back, my daddy’s favorite wrestler was El Mongol. Who actually was Mexican and owned a Mexican restaurant in Atlanta after he retired.
I’ll tell you how far I go back, my daddy’s favorite wrestler was El Mongol. Who actually was Mexican and owned a Mexican restaurant in Atlanta after he retired.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:43 pm to InkStainedWretch
Vincent died today too
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:53 pm to pioneerbasketball
Will he and his dick be given separate burial plots?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:12 pm to MUMFORD
The greatest stable in wrestling history.
Horsemen 4-Life.
Horsemen 4-Life.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:18 pm to InkStainedWretch
RIP
Hadn't heard that name in years liked watching him and a lot of the others now old timers when I was a kid.
Hadn't heard that name in years liked watching him and a lot of the others now old timers when I was a kid.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:19 pm to pioneerbasketball
You mean Virgil.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:28 pm to dukke v
quote:
You mean Virgil.
Depends on your era.
Classic WWE? Virgil, the butt monkey for Ted Dibiase.
WCW? nWo member when they started adding a ton of former WWE guys to the nWo. I believe at one point there were like 8-10 members and the only one who had yet to be in WWE was the Giant (Big Show)
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:44 pm to dukke v
Vincent grandpa
Some of us are younger than 30
Some of us are younger than 30
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:19 am to pioneerbasketball
just wanted to bump...part of my youth was Ole and Arn and hell even Gene...
I first knew them as the Minnesota Wrecking Crew...
I first knew them as the Minnesota Wrecking Crew...
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:53 am to InkStainedWretch
As a kid I watched Ole Anderson vs Cowboy Bill Watts at Rapides Parish Coliseum in Alexandria. Bloody battle and a match I never forget
Posted on 2/29/24 at 9:19 am to tccdc
He was the real deal. They don't make them like Ole anymore. Arn was a pussy compared to Ole. They weren't real brothers. Arn real name was like Marty Coats or some shite when he was a jobber for mid south.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 9:30 am to Tiger Ryno
Marty Lunde and not a pussy.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:05 am to KCRoyalBlue
And from Rome, Georgia, not Minnesota.
The only real Anderson was Gene, who was another tough mutha. People who worked with him said his grip was like a vice and he could hurt you badly and quickly if you messed with him. Ended up being a deputy sheriff after he stoped wrestling.
Ole's real name was Alan Rogowski.
Again, professional wrestling is worked entertainment, not a sport, but a lot of those old-school dudes were legitimate badasses and could make anybody who got off the script or tried to get cute with them pay dearly.
Gorilla Monsoon, real name Bob Morella, played football, wrestled and did track and field in high school and was runner-up in the 1959 NCAA Championships for Ithaca College.
Baron Von Raschke, born Jim Raschke, was Nebraska state high school wrestling champion; Big Eight champion and a two-time All-America at Nebraska, where he also lettered as an offensive lineman for Bob Devaney; won the bronze medal in the World Games; won two AAU championships; and was U.S. armed forces interservice champion.
And just because it was worked entertainment didn't mean all the punches were pulled. The Andersons were known for working "stiff" and two guys who were both certifiable loons, Wahoo McDaniel and Johnny Valentine, were known for literally and legitimately beating the s**t out of each other when they worked.
The only real Anderson was Gene, who was another tough mutha. People who worked with him said his grip was like a vice and he could hurt you badly and quickly if you messed with him. Ended up being a deputy sheriff after he stoped wrestling.
Ole's real name was Alan Rogowski.
Again, professional wrestling is worked entertainment, not a sport, but a lot of those old-school dudes were legitimate badasses and could make anybody who got off the script or tried to get cute with them pay dearly.
Gorilla Monsoon, real name Bob Morella, played football, wrestled and did track and field in high school and was runner-up in the 1959 NCAA Championships for Ithaca College.
Baron Von Raschke, born Jim Raschke, was Nebraska state high school wrestling champion; Big Eight champion and a two-time All-America at Nebraska, where he also lettered as an offensive lineman for Bob Devaney; won the bronze medal in the World Games; won two AAU championships; and was U.S. armed forces interservice champion.
And just because it was worked entertainment didn't mean all the punches were pulled. The Andersons were known for working "stiff" and two guys who were both certifiable loons, Wahoo McDaniel and Johnny Valentine, were known for literally and legitimately beating the s**t out of each other when they worked.
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